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        02-12-2013, 11:28 AM
      #11
    Yearling
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    Next time you walk past be ready and as he reaches out to nibble give him a tap on the nose and a harsh no. If he persists increase how hard you tap his nose. He should get the message.

    My horse Savannah went to bite me in frustration for not having a treat. I learnt not to hand feed treats but put them in a bucket then allow the horse to have them. Back to biting, as she lunged out I gave her a bunch of fives right on the nose hard enough for her to jerk back and look at me.

    She took a couple of days to bring her head down again but she never tried to bite again. I just treated her the same as the herd would.

    Don't read this wrong, I do not hit horses on the face or any where else for that matter and have been known to tell anyone off who raises a hand to my horse but there are times when herd mentality has to be brought into the mix.

    Savannah also tried to kick me with both back legs. As luck would have it she missed, I did not. I had a stick in my hand at the time and as she missed I lashed out hitting her on the hind legs. She got the message and never tried me again. Its a respect thing, if she had of got away with the kick I would have been forever in danger, instead I had a horse that was gentle with me. Savannah is the horse at the bottom of the page
    Holy CRAP, Stan! None of my horses are mouthy...Kiera, *my* horse, has been a little nibbly at times, but I make a harsh noise at her and she would stop immediately. It never became a problem. She also kicked me....once...I cold hosed her teats in the middle of summer when trying to clean them off. She didn't like it...but she is otherwise very respectful. I taught her the error of her ways LOL.

    The "rescue" mare also tried biting me, twice in the same day, out of fear. Same deal. She hasn't tried again. Her colt has not gotten to that point in any way. He sniffs shoes and halters, but that's it.

    I guess my main issue was, "what will the owner say...if I discipline his horse in some way?" That's why I like the brush idea...I'm not contacting him, he's contacting ME, and finding out I have unpleasant, prickly bristles. ;)

    Hmm, seems like so far, mares are "smarter" when it comes to this...
         
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        02-12-2013, 11:50 AM
      #12
    Trained
    You need to have a talk with the BO. THis horse is a liability. Period. If he hurts you, it will be on HER insurance. She needs to deal with the issue, and if I were you, I would be using another set of cross ties, or teaching your horse to ground tie so that you can groom away from him.

    A for his behavior-after talking to the BO and letting her know that if she doesn't deal with it you will be forced to protect yourself and your horse-I would first get REALLY BIG and IN HIS FACE. I mean arms up flailing and screaming like the world will end as you step toward him. Most horses this will make back up, and retreat into their stalls. After a couple of times, you will most likely just be able to just say "Hey!" and he will stop. If this does not work-he would meet my elbow, fist or whatever. I would not have my horse or myself bit by him.

    I would be upset if I were you just knowing that the BO was LIFTED UP by him and has done nothing. If this were summer and she had less clothes on it would be a different story. The fact that this happened, folks know she knows the horse is an issue and has verbalized it and does nothing.......bet her insurance agent would LOVE to know. Her liability is off the charts.
         
        02-12-2013, 01:54 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    I find any sort of poking, nudging light bumping, only encourages a horse to bite harder and faster because it becomes a game. When it comes to myself and my horses safety I have no problem with delivering a no way in heck response. I used to have a horse that boarded next to my horses pipe corral. It used to charge my horse when I tried to take him out of his pen (the door was against the other horses pen) After my saint of a horse lost a chunk of flesh out of his rear because he wouldn't run into me when the horse charged I took matters into my own hands. (I never saw the owner, and barn owners didn't think it was an issue)

    I carried a crop and the next time the horse charged mine while I was tacking Jake out I gave him a hard smack with the crop on the nose. The horse never came near while I was around again. It would stay at the back of its pen if I was around. I never had an issue after that.

    The owner eventually did hear that I had smacked her horse and confronted me about it. But after showing her the wound on my horse's back and telling her about the liability of an horse aggressive horse, and the possibility of me getting in the middle she quickly left me alone. I told her I would not terrorize her horse, but if it came at me or my horse again I would do the same thing. I left that barn shortly after.

    Then again the horse I was dealing with was more aggressive and there was no way I could avoid it. I would suggest avoiding this horse if you can, if you can't and no one is willing to do something do what it takes to make sure you and your horses are safe and move barns.
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        02-12-2013, 02:51 PM
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    Originally Posted by franknbeans    
    You need to have a talk with the BO. THis horse is a liability. Period. If he hurts you, it will be on HER insurance. She needs to deal with the issue, and if I were you, I would be using another set of cross ties, or teaching your horse to ground tie so that you can groom away from him.

    A for his behavior-after talking to the BO and letting her know that if she doesn't deal with it you will be forced to protect yourself and your horse-I would first get REALLY BIG and IN HIS FACE. I mean arms up flailing and screaming like the world will end as you step toward him. Most horses this will make back up, and retreat into their stalls. After a couple of times, you will most likely just be able to just say "Hey!" and he will stop. If this does not work-he would meet my elbow, fist or whatever. I would not have my horse or myself bit by him.

    I would be upset if I were you just knowing that the BO was LIFTED UP by him and has done nothing. If this were summer and she had less clothes on it would be a different story. The fact that this happened, folks know she knows the horse is an issue and has verbalized it and does nothing.......bet her insurance agent would LOVE to know. Her liability is off the charts.

    I agree with the bolded part.

    When I first got Dice he was one to "test the waters" with me the first few weeks. I was cleaning his stall and he was munching his hay. I asked him to move from his hay so I could get that spot and he snaked his head over and bit my arm HARD, left a yummeh bruise. He had a come to Jesus moment and I made him think he was going to die, without touching him. I got loud banged the pitchfork infront of him, on the metal stall bars and made him move his feet hard and fast. He got in the corner of his stall and had an "Oh crap she means business" look on his face. Hasn't tried it since and now I can move wherever I want without touching him.

    He's a mouthy horse in general anything "interesting" he has to hold in his mouth, I'm hoping he'll grow out of it but I have a sneaky feeling he won't it's just his personality. Though he knows people, clothing, and anything people are holding/working with are completely off limits(except for the time he stole my hammer, never set anything down around that horse in the field. All it takes now is a stern "Hey!" and he's like "Sorry mom."
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        02-12-2013, 10:55 PM
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    How do you deal with the horse that lifts his bucket of water up and dumps it on you. I have a 6 yr old gelding who thinks picking up his bucket and presenting it back is the in thing to do, regardless of it having water in it or not.

    He is getting used to me having a rain coat on or sporting an umbrella.
         

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