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post #11 of 56 Old 09-19-2012, 03:11 PM
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Flicka/Black Stallion/Black Beauty are pretty much the worst thing that ever happened to the horse industry, in my opinion. First of all, in order to allow these horses to "communicate", the directors have anthropomorphosized them in the worst possible way - they act "human like" so non-horse audiences can understand them.

The influx of the "super sparkly special bond syndrome" drives me up the wall.

There is a bond - but it is a horse bond, not a human bond. Horses do not love, they bond through their own horse-language. If you speak their language and earn their respect, you may earn their trust, which is the correct form of "bonding" that people should aspire too.
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Flicka/Black Stallion/Black Beauty are pretty much the worst thing that ever happened to the horse industry, in my opinion. First of all, in order to allow these horses to "communicate", the directors have anthropomorphosized them in the worst possible way - they act "human like" so non-horse audiences can understand them.

The influx of the "super sparkly special bond syndrome" drives me up the wall.

There is a bond - but it is a horse bond, not a human bond. Horses do not love, they bond through their own horse-language. If you speak their language and earn their respect, you may earn their trust, which is the correct form of "bonding" that people should aspire too.
I think I ruined "War Horse" for my husband because I could not stop myself from pointing out all the times when it was bleedingly obvious to me that the horse was exhibiting some learned behaviour in response to cues from an off-screen handler, rather than responding to the on-screen actors in a normal equine way.
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I got a HUGE laugh out of the scene in LOTR when the horse came back for wounded Aragorn, and laid down so he could get on.

It didn't help that I was with other horsey friends, and while everyone else in the theater was ooohing and aaahhing at the touching moment, we were all snorting with laughter.
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I got a HUGE laugh out of the scene in LOTR when the horse came back for wounded Aragorn, and laid down so he could get on.

It didn't help that I was with other horsey friends, and while everyone else in the theater was ooohing and aaahhing at the touching moment, we were all snorting with laughter.
What you don't think your horse would lay down and take you to safety?

I am pretty sure my horse would leave me there to die so she could look for a new owner with better hay and more treats.
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I got a HUGE laugh out of the scene in LOTR when the horse came back for wounded Aragorn, and laid down so he could get on.

It didn't help that I was with other horsey friends, and while everyone else in the theater was ooohing and aaahhing at the touching moment, we were all snorting with laughter.
I'm sure Tolkien was turning in his grave as well, but nevermind.

My horsey friends and I also had a good snigger at that scene.
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Not only would mine buck me off if Orcs were after us in order to make his escape without the fat ass human weighing him down, but the only reason he might come back is if it was dinnertime and there was no more danger to him.

He'd come sauntering over, snuffle me, and say, 'Um, are you gettin' up, or what? I'm ready to eat now!'
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You know what they say... When running from an army of Orcs, you don't have to run faster than the Orcs, you just have to run faster than your friend. If you and your horse part ways, you are the unfortunate friend!
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I completly agree with oh vair oh. A horse doesn't "love" but show respect to us as masters and leaders. My horse will takes his head when I'm scratching and gently lay on my chest, they're not saying "I love you" but saying I'm in submission to you and I trust you. If you think about it, since horses are prey animals, they are taking a big risk and putting themselves in complete vulnerability to show you respect. I know horses aren't dogs, and shouldn't be treated like dogs; but when a dog rolls over on its stomach it's not saying "scratch my belly" it's showing respect to you by making itself completely vulnerable to you, the master. Because if a dog is standing up you can't easily get to the vitals and is harder to attack and kill it. But when it rolls over on its stomach they expose their vitals and are putting themselves in submission to you and showing you have all the power and authority, I respect you, kill me if that's your will. Wolves to the same thing in wild pack to their alpha male or female. It's a sign of respect. Same with horses their is definitely a bond, no doubt in my mind. But it is not a love bond, it is a respect. My cousin's horse WILL NOT let anyone but my cousin ride him. I believe that's a resect and a bond. Do we want it to be that "love" bond, absolutly! Even I want it to be. I dream of being able to communicate with my horse like the way Penny Chenery does in Secretariat when she stares into his eyes and he understands what she's saying. But the reality is that your horse doesn't love you. But that doesn't mean it doesn't care for you. You can't spend time with your horse expecting "love" because you will be dissapointed everytime. And for those of you who say the only thing horses care about is food. My horse will NOT TOUCH his food when I'm next to him. I'll go into the stall even after I just poured his oats and gave him hay or in the middle of his eating and give him a rub down on his neck and he'll give me all his attention and THEN eat after I'm out of his stall. That's respect!

So just my 5 cents worth. A horse doesn't love you. But, there is a bond, and a respect, and definitely a relationship.

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You know what they say... When running from an army of Orcs, you don't have to run faster than the Orcs, you just have to run faster than your friend. If it's you and your horse, you are the unfortunate friend!
Oh, I'd definitely be the sacrifice. Here, take this nice, fat, juicy human and leave me alone!
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Pft. I have a magikul bond with Ro, straight from Hollywood. He always comes to the gate when I call (and it's not for the treat I give him for coming to the gate!) He totally didn't try and rub my leg off on the wall yesterday, and he's just showing me how much he loves me when he tries to rub his giant, sweaty head all over my shoulder/back after our rides.
It's love, dammit.

... The only reason he wouldn't buck me off running away from Orcs is because bucking takes too much effort, and he's a lazy, LAZY boy.
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