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Stable Manager is a Scammer!

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#1 ·
I found out the other day that the so called "stable manager" used all of Delilah's supplements for her horses and Delilah got none... On top of her not feeding her 2x's a day... WHICH WE PAID HER FOR! she rarely came out once a day, and my poor ol' mare has lost so much weight that we're almost back to square one... she was doing so well when I was doing all of the work, then got into a tiff with the BWORD of a "stable manager", and it was settled that she would do the work, and we would pay her... but NOPE.

My husband has been going through some surgeries, so I hadn't seen her in 3 weeks, so it was to my surprise that she lost 50lbs in that time! Not only did she not feed her, she used her chopped alfalfa, AND her WEIGHT BUILDING supplement for HER horses. How did I find this out? The property owner had to do feedings for a week and the horrible excuse for a "stable manager" told her to only give it to HER horses!!! I gave her a BRAND NEW TUB along with HALF of one 3 WEEKS AGO! Each one is a 32 DAY SUPPLY! and costs $30 each!!! Thats 1 and a half months worth!!! PLUS A BRAND NEW BAG OF ALFALFA that we were using just to supplement her hay!!!

Got it worked out with the property owner that I will do all of her feedings myself, and provide everything (which we were already doing because the so called "stable manager" doesn't EVER keep grain OR hay onsite!) and only pay $75 for her board. Dealing with this Scammer is really upsetting! I have half a mind to tell the other boarders that their horses aren't getting any kind of supplementing out in pasture! Even though they believe they're getting supplemented with grain and hay 2x's a day! YEAH RIGHT! I've only seen her grain those horses out there maybe 5x's in the last 3 months!!!

So on top of everything I've been having to deal with her and how she does not keep anything on hand, grain or hay... The horses, (even her own) will go a week at a time without one of the two... for 3 weeks there wasn't grain... for one and a half weeks no hay!

Why is someone like this able to do business???

I've also found out by the owner of the property that she had a horse repossessed because she wasn't paying for her, when she told me that the horse wasn't fit and had an injury the previous owner didn't tell her about! So she has been ruining OTHER people's reputations! She didn't pay the last 2 hay people and had to have a half of a ton hay bale repossessed, which the hay guy had to take a loss on! And she's ALWAYS late for her board for her horses and she keeps getting more and more and more when she can barely take care of the ones that she has! This person shouldn't be able to do business! I feel sorry for anyone who comes in contact with her... She's a money sucking liar and a thief!

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO TO STOP HER FROM DOING BUSINESS WITH THESE POOR PEOPLE?!!!
 
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#2 ·
move barns? although i guess if you'll be doing all the work now there is no need. If you plan on staying there i'd be wary to make commotion over this persons reputation. You dont want her harming your horse while you are not there. I would absolutely confront the woman (maturely, as you only have one side of the story) and ask her to refund your supplements and hay if she indeed stole them.
 
#3 ·
You're right... she's already pulled a lot of childish stunts... It's just so upsetting! She won't refund anything, I already asked, then she took the feeder buckets out of Delilah's stall, come to find out they aren't hers. And the property owner had to put them back.
 
#5 ·
Why is the property owner allowing her to stay?
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The owner is a really sweet lady, but she would be losing out on board for 6 horses if she let her go, and she left. So she may be blinded by that fact. I would offer to do the work and pick up the slack if I thought it would do any good, but I have one horse vs. the six that the "stable manager" boards. I'm looking into some other places to board my sweet old mare, but it is the cheapest by far, but the work, and cost of everything is pretty substantial. Then again since it is the cheapest, maybe the "stable manager" would have to stay. Who knows? But I don't see anything changing in the near future...
 
#7 ·
I'm kind of stuck in a rut... the "stable manager" convinced me to get Delilah, which I'm glad I did, but I don't have any means of moving her. I drive 30 minutes back and forth to feed her twice a day like I used to, so I know she'll be fed. But moving her? that's where I'm at a loss. There are nice places that are in town, but this is my first experience boarding or even owning a horse, and I'm afraid that it'll keep happening.
 
#18 ·
All very good points, we're looking into another barn. The man just opened, and a stall with a 50'x50' run doesn't sound too bad. We're paying $75, was $125 before for the payment to the manager. But the gas, providing the hay, grain, supplements is running it up. This other place is closer, and is only $160, with everything provided, even choice of grain... The only catch is that he has a lot of people interested, and will have to see if there's room.

As for right now, the property owner told us it would be a good idea to put padlocks on her stall for the time being, so she's all locked up. We're assured that the manager won't have any access to the key the owner has... so we'll see.
 
#20 ·
I was trying to put this nicely, but I can't. Lol. Please don't be offended but you have to move. I honestly can't help people who don't help themselves. You complain about it, yet don't do anything to help you or your horse. The posters above me have provided you some very helpful advice, and you need to take it. DO NOT lock your horse in it's stall, that's ridiculously dumb and asking for trouble. How would she get out in an emergency? Do not drive 30 mi 2x a day, that's outrageous! Find a nice little place near you, which I'm sure there are, and get the heck out of there!!
 
#23 ·
Update

One of the horses got repossessed... the second one in the past 2 months. The girl was FURIOUS and called Animal Control for the neglect that the "stable manager" was doing to the horses. I guess things are catching up to her. I'll keep myself out of it, though she's ruining her own reputation, I shouldn't allow myself to go down with her.
 
#25 ·
And if the entire barn catches on fire or some other natural disaster causes the barn to become structurally unsafe, then what? Your horse will perish as nobody will be able to open the stall door.

If I couldn't afford to have my horse in a decent, SAFE place, I'd find him a new home with a new owner that could afford him. :wink:
 
#26 ·
And if the entire barn catches on fire or some other natural disaster causes the barn to become structurally unsafe, then what? Your horse will perish as nobody will be able to open the stall door.

If I couldn't afford to have my horse in a decent, SAFE place, I'd find him a new home with a new owner that could afford him. :wink:
I didn't think of it that way. But the owner of the property does have a key. And like I said, we are looking into other places to board. I don't feel comfortable with the manager having access to her.
 
#29 ·
The BO doesn't want to "fire" the stable manager because she'll loose 6 horses? If the stable manager is late and/or not paying monthly, then the BO is loosing out on 6 paying horses a month!
FIND A NEW BARN (I know you said you were) and I'd be tempted to call animal control also about her, that she is not feeding your horse as you ordered, and the horse is loosing weight!

Good luck
 
#30 ·
The BO doesn't want to "fire" the stable manager because she'll loose 6 horses? If the stable manager is late and/or not paying monthly, then the BO is loosing out on 6 paying horses a month!
FIND A NEW BARN (I know you said you were) and I'd be tempted to call animal control also about her, that she is not feeding your horse as you ordered, and the horse is loosing weight!

Good luck
Although if she has her horse locked in a stall without a chance for someone to help it in case of injury or accident, animal control won't like that either!
 
#35 ·
If your solution is locking everything up (including your horse) to ensure the stable manager doesn't have access, you need to move your horse ASAP to the first decent place that will take and care properly for her. If things are truly as bad as you say, I have to wonder why you haven't moved her already. Go to your local feed /tack store or telephone directory and find a stable who can / will take her NOW. Once she is safe and cared for, then you can worry about finding a long term facility that is more convenient / affordable for you. Don't give the yard owner a second glance. By condoning the managers behaviour, she is just as guilty of neglect, regardless of how sweet she seems.
 
#36 ·
I would not hesitate to make some calls, ask around, etc. - whatever you have to do to get your horse transported to a better barn!! The situation is inexcusible. I wouldn't spend so much time, worry, energy and gas trying to make do in such a toxic environment. If you're nervous about moving your horse and this happening again, (most likely it won't - there are a lot of good stables out there!), be sure to get references from past and current boarders.
Good luck, and I hope everything works out! Then you can enjoy horseownership again as it was intended. :)
 
#37 ·
As the other have said - cut your losses and get away from her. She sounds spiteful, will do you no favours and believe me when I say there ARE good people out there. You should enjoy seeing your horse, it sounds like seeing your horse causes you to be upset, why do it to yourself?

As for transport - over here 99% of yards will offer transport. It's in their interest to get horses in, so they are more than happy to do it. If you are enquiring, ask about transport, I'm sure you'll find somebody to help you out.

I would suggest either moving your horse, or suggesting to the property owner that although there are 6 horses, if she wasn't at this property, there is a fairly good chance that other people would move their horses to the yard. By the sounds of her, she's clearly burned her bridges with numerous people, and that will do the property owner no favours to get horses into this yard.
 
#38 ·
I haven't read all the replies.

Seriously, get out of there. Find a hauler for your mare, go look at barns in your area (you'll save on fuel costs!). Believe me there are tons of barns out there better than the one you are at.

Just because you are close with the owner of the property (I am assuming here, you said she had pushed you to get Delilah, and you don't want to leave so I assume you are close with them), does not mean it's a good situation for you or your mare. Being close with the owners does not mean they have the best care. Go look at other barns, try google/phonebook or if you have a local horse site that will usual have BO's posting when they have an opening for a boarder.

How does your horse's safety and health outweigh your friendship with the owner? You're also spending quite a bit on gas each day I assume, not to mention your time. Find a better situation.
 
#39 ·
So it sounds to me that this horse is more of a pet then anything. You never said when you ride or anything like that. Not to mention you have her LOCKED in her stall. First I would get the heck out of that place. It just sounds bad all around. Even if you only find something temporarily, and good BM or BO will understand your sisutation and be willing to help. Second, your horse needs to be worked, daily. Consider leasing her out, or selling her. For her own good.
 
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