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post #1 of 13 Old 03-02-2011, 08:50 PM Thread Starter
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Question strange barn rules

Ok so I'm taking lessons at this barn. I don't have my own horse anymore but I have leased horses on and off at this barn. when I first started leasing, my instructor/barn owner told me that I cannot jump on a leased horse unless I'm in a lesson. I thought, ok...I can understand that. It's not MY horse and they don't want me to do something stupid on someone else's horse, hurt the horse, hurt myself etc...I get it. But my friend who BOARDS her horse there was told the same thing. That she cannot jump HER horse unless she's in a lesson. Now, my friend is an adult and experienced jumper. Has taken her horse to hunter paces and taken jumping lessons off and on. It seems a little drastic to me for a barn owner to tell someone they can't jump their own horse unless they are in a lesson, what do you think? Also, my friend boards her horse in the 'back barn' where it is more like partial/pasture board. There is a run in barn back there but the stalls are left open unless the weather is bad or they request their horse to be turned in at night or something. It's less expensive than boarding in the main barn. But my friend wants to move her horse up to the main barn and is agree-able to paying the higher board price to have her horse up there. BUT she was told that she could only do it if she takes weekly lessons as well. That doesn't seem fair. I guess I could see if the barn owner/trainer wanted her to take a lesson once or twice a month...I could see if she wanted the horses in the main barn to be used regularly and not just turned in and turned out and not ridden. But lessons are $40 per. So just to move her horse from the back barn up to the main barn her board would go up $300 a month, then she has to pay $160 on top of that for lessons?! THAT doesn't seem fair...or am I missing something?
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post #2 of 13 Old 03-02-2011, 08:56 PM
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I am an English trained rider and I mainly jump. I consider myself to be a rather competent rider, I have my own horse who was bred and trained to jump. I have even coached jumping lessons to fellow boarders.

However I would never EVER even consider jumping my OWN horse on my OWN with no one on the ground.
Why? Basically it's for safety reasons. It's common sense to me to not jump alone.
Also, when learning to jump (and even for the more advanced and even professional rider) it is essential to have someone on the ground watching you. Not only do you have another pair of eyes, but also this person can build jumps, put back poles which your horse has knocked down, change heights, add jumps, widen spreads etc....

Your barn owner is, IMO very wise to have put that jumping rule up...
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I agree that you shouldn't be jumping with at least someone there. Minors should have a competent adult around.

Many barns require that you take a certain amount of lessons per month. This is a good business practice as it brings in more money and it helps improve the overall competency of the riders.

Most rules I've seen are fairly reasonable. I was surprised to see a "no cell phones while riding" sign once. Not that I am opposed to it (there is no reason to have a cell phone on you while riding in an indoor with other people around!) I was surprised they needed it lol
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post #4 of 13 Old 03-02-2011, 09:21 PM
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To many condition at that place. I would pack up and find another place.
I understand the no jumping, maybe it's a liability issue. Who knows.
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I can mostly understand the jumping rule. but it seems strange to me that you have to pay that much more/have to take lessons, just to change stalls. - I think at the barn where I clean stalls, they have a discount on board when enrolled in lessons. (probably a Small discount. probably have to have at Least one lesson/week... but! still.) I mean, I can understand the business side of the argument. and I don't know the difference between your stalls/barns, but $300 seems like a lot between them.
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I think the rule should be "you should not jump alone". I know a barn in my area that doesn't let people do that, AND they don't let kids 18 and under jump over 2'. I don't get it. I was jumping 2'6 and 2'3 courses when I was 10 and 11! I can understand not jumping alone, but not jumping period? Makes me wonder. But who knows, they could have had a bad experience with it.
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post #7 of 13 Old 03-02-2011, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BeauReba View Post
I was surprised to see a "no cell phones while riding" sign once. Not that I am opposed to it (there is no reason to have a cell phone on you while riding in an indoor with other people around!) I was surprised they needed it lol
I never ride without my cell phone. You can't depend on someone always being around even at large facilities. The one time I didn't have my phone is the one time I ended up eating dirt, luckily my trainer's neighbors were there and went running to get my trainer (she's a paramedic). I turn the ringer on my phone off but my trainer made me promise that I will not ever ride without my cell phone again.
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I know of barns in my area who also have that rule rottenweiler. I see where you and your friend are coming from but I kind of agree with your barn. I think it's very easy to develop bad habits without a trainer present and one place where I would not want to develop bad habits is jumping! Also, your barn may be thinking in terms of liability and insurance. Even if you have a signed waiver, if an injured rider takes you to court you will have to endure litigation/arbitration and pay lawyer fees which not cheap!

Not sure about the expensive weekly lessons in order to stay in the premium barn.... Sounds like they have an aggressive business model!

Delfina I hope you mean that you keep your cell phone on your persons and not that you talk on the phone while riding!
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post #9 of 13 Old 03-03-2011, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Shasta1981 View Post
Delfina I hope you mean that you keep your cell phone on your persons and not that you talk on the phone while riding!
I've done the fast stop, slide off and answer the phone (person watching my kiddos called) but no way would I consider talking on it while riding. I carry it so that if I should end up splattered on the ground, I can call for help. I have a green-broke 4yr old, if I was to try riding and talking at the same time, I'd probably increase my chances of needing said phone by a good 90%!!
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post #10 of 13 Old 03-03-2011, 08:45 PM
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What did people do for centuries before cellphones? At this particular stable there are always people near the arena anyway and there is a land line. If you have a cellphone on you and you are knocked out, chances are you won't be using it to call the paramedics anyway.
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