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        07-12-2013, 11:17 PM
      #11
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WSArabians    
    THIS is why my horses do not go on trials (buyers are welcome to come over a million times a day if they want), nor do they leave before payment is finished.
    THIS is also why for every deposit, there is a receipt. For every deal, there is a signed contract. Word of mouth gets you nowhere.
    I'm with you 100%.

    When we sold the mare we had, we were given a deposit cheque before getting a certified cheque, and I made it clear to them that they could not pick her up until the cheque cleared(the deposit).
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        07-12-2013, 11:34 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Well you have possession of the horse, tell them to wait like you both originally agreed to.
         
        07-12-2013, 11:42 PM
      #13
    Trained
    First-lesson learned, most trials are for X amount of time, at which time either horse goes back, or $$ is paid for horse. ALL IN WRITING. Secondly-am I the only one who thinks the OP is wrong for going to look at a horse she does not have the $$ for? Last week, this week or next week-doesn't matter. I don't think people should go try horses they cannot pay for, whether they have intent of buying one or not, NO LESS TAKE IT HOME ON TRIAL!. I am of the opinion that this is wrong, and honestly-if I was the seller- I would be on my way to get the horse.
         
        07-12-2013, 11:54 PM
      #14
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by franknbeans    
    First-lesson learned, most trials are for X amount of time, at which time either horse goes back, or $$ is paid for horse. ALL IN WRITING. Secondly-am I the only one who thinks the OP is wrong for going to look at a horse she does not have the $$ for? Last week, this week or next week-doesn't matter. I don't think people should go try horses they cannot pay for, whether they have intent of buying one or not, NO LESS TAKE IT HOME ON TRIAL!. I am of the opinion that this is wrong, and honestly-if I was the seller- I would be on my way to get the horse.
    Umm...No.
    I had one guy who came out and wanted to buy two mares. Okay, fine. Put a deposit down ($300 - $150 per horse). Signed contract saying this amount was given (he got a receipt for deposit), all deposits are non-refundable, horses could not leave until paid but buyers were welcome to come out anytime, and monthly payments were to be due by X days per month.
    Month one goes by...No payment. Sent an email, phone calls...nothing. Month two... Same thing, nothing. Month three when deposit was due, both mares go back up for sale when nothing arrives.
    I get a threatening email (NOW he has access to email??) saying if I don't take the said horses off the sale sites he was taking me to small claims court. He just didn't have the money at the time payments were due.
    Umm... Sorry? Really? Not only did I wait two months without payment, I turned down sales that were more then I originally sold both of them for. So, I told him how to get a hold of my attorney should he have any further concerns. Lo and behold...Nothing.
    I browse horses above my price range - I never inquire about one, let alone take one out on a trial knowing full well I couldn't pay for it, irregardless of a time limit given, unless it was a free lease situation.
    And I can guarantee you that if, for whatever reason, I did have a stupid moment and let a horse go without being paid for, that that person decided to not return the horse when they couldn't put up the funds, I'd have every bloody RCMP in the county on their little behind. Sorry, OP.
    This was just poor management all the way around.
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        07-13-2013, 01:34 AM
      #15
    Foal
    I'd be interested to know if the OP was up front about not having all the $$ yet? It sounds like maybe s/he thought there was more time to come up with it?
         
        07-13-2013, 01:38 AM
      #16
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by lilypoo    
    I'd be interested to know if the OP was up front about not having all the $$ yet? It sounds like maybe s/he thought there was more time to come up with it?
    It was a bit confusing, for sure.
    I'm just going off my experience, and why I don't let horses out on trial. Let alone not have anything in writing.
    I can't see anyone letting a horse go without discussing a price (which one could either afford or not) or a time limit (and if this wasn't put in writing, then it's hard lesson learned). But someone can't not return a horse if they can't do the payments because it doesn't belong to them.
    I'm sure if I didn't pay my truck payments because I didn't want to my bank wouldn't just let it slide...
         
        07-13-2013, 01:52 AM
      #17
    Showing
    Thats a scary thought...I could never let a horse go on trial.
         
        07-13-2013, 03:32 AM
      #18
    Foal
    Many years ago, I was on the seller's side of "Taken for a ride". So my advice is pay them now or give him back. I understand what you are saying, but you are putting the sellers in a position they don't want to be in either.
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        07-13-2013, 05:42 AM
      #19
    Started
    I really do think it was you that had the misunderstanding. I think the owners thought that you just wanted a trial to make sure that the horse is right for you. If you do not have the funds to pay them immediately and payment arrangements cannot be made, then give them back their horse. Also, you should not expect a refund on your deposit. That is theirs to keep.

    Just because someone isn't desperate for money doesn't mean they shouldn't get paid in a timely manner.

    When will you have the money? Is it a matter of waiting for a pay check or is it a matter of having to draw it out for weeks? If it is the latter, then you are going to be trying to pay for a horse out of your means anyway.
         
        07-13-2013, 06:11 AM
      #20
    Weanling
    I'm a little concerned that if the OP can't pay for the purchase price (not that we know what that is), that she may have problems paying for the ongoing costs?
         

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