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    06-05-2012, 11:03 PM
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Foal
Taking a trainer to see a horse? - Would like opinions!

So in my update I posted that I would most likely start horse hunting this summer. The last few times I've gone to look at a horse, I haven't had a trainer to come with me and obviously I'm not going to ask a random trainer to come with me.

So I want to know, since I'm seriously looking into horses this summer, how important do you feel it is to take a trainer to look at a horse with you? I personally think it would help just because they are getting a different perspective/look of the horse and I feel like having a trainer would make me think more about my decision.

I plan to email this other barn tomorrow since the one I called/emailed over the weekend never got back to me unfortunately. I am asking them about taking lessons-in which I want to tell them that I did take lessons there for a bit-and hearing about their boarding plans more in depth, particularly the pasture board it's $400/per month and you get access to everything and even your own grooming/tacking area.

So anyway, what is your opinion on this? Should I definitely look into taking a trainer? I can understand the importance of taking a trainer to look at horses with you because they can see the little things that I can't, ask questions I otherwise would not have thought of, etc.
     
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    06-05-2012, 11:12 PM
  #2
Yearling
If you will be taking lessons there it can only help. A more experienced pair of eyes is never a bad thing.
     
    06-05-2012, 11:16 PM
  #3
Weanling
I learned a tough lesson about including trainers in a buy/sell situation early in my horse owner years...it is quite typical & expected that they take a percentage of the sale price...soo be careful who goes with you! I highly recommend a presale vet check if you can afford it...it might save you a lot of heart ache & money later! Good luck in finding the perfect fit for you & the horse =))
     
    06-05-2012, 11:26 PM
  #4
Trained
If you do take a trainer with you be prepared to either pay a flat fee or a percentage of the purchase price for her expertise. It can be well worth the money to have a trainer with you, especially if you are looking at a horse for a specific discipline. My rule of thumb on a vet check is, anything over $2500 gets a vet check with a drug test and radiographs if they fail a flexion test. Anything over $5K gets a full work up regardless of flexion testing.
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    06-05-2012, 11:45 PM
  #5
Foal
Interesting to hear that I would have to be prepared to pay the trainer a percentage of the sale price. I also want to ask, how much does a presale vet check cost and would another vet check be necessary if you were getting ready to purchase? I'm sure it'll be fine with my mom if it's upwards of a few hundred dollars.

Also, one of the horses I'm looking at is a little over at the knee, and I'm curious, why is being over at the knee or under at the knee looked at closely? Does it just "damage" the horse's conformation? Or is there something more to it?

I am looking at horses for basic english of course, and jumpers in particular. So I do feel like having a trainer would make a difference I just don't want to have to end up paying a lot just because she came and gave me her opinion and what not. But then again, it could be worth it.
     
    06-06-2012, 12:08 AM
  #6
Weanling
A presale vet check is just that a health check before a sale is complete, it can be written in the sale contract quite easily any health concerns can be addressed then "before" completion of a sale. As far as cost, it will depend on the equine vet that you use, as well as, how extensive of a work up you want. If you are looking at a jumping prospect then I would def pay close attention to joints ( the flexion test..with possible radiographs if necessary) as jumping puts a lot of strain on the leg joints of a horse. The trainer can help with particular body style & movement but don't fall in to the trap of "with a little training..this horse will be" from a trainer's perspective that means your mom might be spending waay more than necessary & it might not end up to be the right "fit" for you.
     
    06-06-2012, 12:10 AM
  #7
Foal
I personally would go by myself or with a family member or friend to check out the horse first, then if I like it come back with someone more experienced so they can see if there's anything about the horse I missed. If I take a trainer with me the first time I feel more pressured to buy if it's a good horse, even if I don't click with it. This is especially true if it's a horse they suggested, it can be hard to say, "Nope, I just don't like this horse. No reason, we just don't get along."
Once you've tried the horse and like it though it's a good idea to have someone experienced in your chosen discipline come see it.
I've also found I like having a friend come to video me riding and working with the horse the first time, you often see things in a video you don't notice in person.
     
    06-06-2012, 12:25 AM
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Trained
Interesting to hear that I would have to be prepared to pay the trainer a percentage of the sale price. I also want to ask, how much does a presale vet check cost and would another vet check be necessary if you were getting ready to purchase? I'm sure it'll be fine with my mom if it's upwards of a few hundred dollars. Vet checks vary by vet, services rendered and your locale. I expect to pay between $200 & could be as much as $1000 if I have a lot of radiographs and bloodwork done. But that would only be done on a very expensive horse, for instance one that's already a National Champion at something.

Paying your trainer either a percentage (probably 5-10% of the price if they aren't representing the horse) or a flat fee, I'm used to between $100 - $500, depending on just how good the trainer is; is fairly common. You are taking up time they could be spending making money with lessons or working a horse in training or taking up their day off to look at a horse you may or may not buy.

Also, one of the horses I'm looking at is a little over at the knee, and I'm curious, why is being over at the knee or under at the knee looked at closely? Does it just "damage" the horse's conformation? Or is there something more to it? A 'little' over at the knee is not a big deal and some folks prefer a hunter to be a little over. It just means there's not a straight line from the knee down. Anything exagerated wouldn't be good but a little over isn't a huge deal. Many horses run for years and jump for years with no lameness issues because of it.

I am looking at horses for basic english of course, and jumpers in particular. So I do feel like having a trainer would make a difference I just don't want to have to end up paying a lot just because she came and gave me her opinion and what not. But then again, it could be worth it. Having a trainer with you, to look the horse over, test ride it and evaluate it and give you her professional opinion can literally save you thousands of dollars or even your life if it's totally the wrong horse for you or misrepresented.
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    06-06-2012, 12:45 AM
  #9
Foal
Thanks for the info, eclipseranch! I also would definitely like to avoid falling into a trap and my mom ending up paying an arm and a leg because of the "with some training, this horse will be.." I do not want that to happen!
     
    06-06-2012, 12:59 AM
  #10
Foal
I appreciate everyone's opinions, perhaps I'll go the first time with my mom/friend. I know my best friend's mom has owned horses for a while so maybe I can ask her what she thinks.

I like the idea of someone recording me on video. The trainer I had at the barn I'm looking to go back to recorded me during a lesson once and showed me and that's when I really saw where my flaws were. Had nothing to do with the horse and everything to do with me, but it still helped and I think it's a great tool to use.
     

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