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    08-14-2012, 04:07 PM
  #1221
Foal
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    08-14-2012, 04:16 PM
  #1222
Banned
Adios guys! See you later

Turns out I don't have to leave yet.


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    08-14-2012, 04:22 PM
  #1223
Started
Thanks! She is 14 and loves to just go, go, go. I've been riding her for a while but trying to slow her down and for that matter even get on her without her taking off. She was my husbands horse for a long time (which is why all she wants to do is go) then she got sick, dropped weight and muscle and now I'm trying to bring her back. Unfortunately we don't have hills or slopes but we have a mountain of manure LOL. She has come a long way but am running out of ideas to improve her top line considering we have no hills or slopes to ride. She's definitely been a challenge but we've improved together and it's been a slow process. Do you have any other suggestions besides hills for her top line?
     
    08-14-2012, 04:24 PM
  #1224
Yearling
Ok Clippityclop... I'm curious about my mare, but never posted on the critique confo, never can get good confo shots. I know she's not perfect, sickle hocked. I'm using her just for pleasure, my pleasure, trail riding. What do you think of my QH? Wish I had better pics, but, I seem to forget my camera when I'm out there! Lol

Beckys Highlight Cat Quarter Horse
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    08-14-2012, 04:55 PM
  #1225
Green Broke
KC, the only thing that really stands out about your mare is she's bum high. Her pasterns are a tad long, a decent shoulder, with a sloping croup. Her coupling is a tad longer than preferable, but as long as she is taught to collect, then it's no problem.

Nuisance, your mare is very well balanced. She is sickle hocked, and something else funky is going on with her back legs. I think her hocks are set too low? Shoulder is a little steep, but her neck ties in well. Nice hip, although she's bum high as well. Very pretty mare. :)

The only confo pics I really have are of Princess, the mare I sold last month, and my baby boy at five weeks. Anyone wanna take a crack at them? I have no problem judging babies. If they have a halter weanling class, then why will no one on here critique them? Always struck as odd to me.

(I know Princess is standing funky. Wasn't really going for a confo shot, just one nice enough to post on her ad )

ETA: I've never really noticed how red Princess is. Jeez, like a copper penny!
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    08-14-2012, 05:48 PM
  #1226
Yearling
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Originally Posted by kctop72    
Thanks! She is 14 and loves to just go, go, go. I've been riding her for a while but trying to slow her down and for that matter even get on her without her taking off. She was my husbands horse for a long time (which is why all she wants to do is go) then she got sick, dropped weight and muscle and now I'm trying to bring her back. Unfortunately we don't have hills or slopes but we have a mountain of manure LOL. She has come a long way but am running out of ideas to improve her top line considering we have no hills or slopes to ride. She's definitely been a challenge but we've improved together and it's been a slow process. Do you have any other suggestions besides hills for her top line?

I'm no expert, but I would try some different exercises in a plain eggbutt or o-ring snaffle (something without shanks so you can have some direct contact without curb pressure) that encourage her to flex and bend. For example (and anyone else out there who has ideas, please feel free to correct/add/expand on this) a simple exercise that I use on horses that only know how to go and whoa, is just begin teaching submissiveness to the bit.

Walk along, then ask her to drop her head and then ask for whoa. Then walk along again, ask her to drop her head with the reins but don't whoa. Then mix it up...always asking her to drop her head until she gets the idea and then speed up the walk. Then throw in a whoa here and there but not always at the same place (so she can't anticipate it) and HOPEFULLY (this could take a few rides) she will learn to carry her weight on her rear, ready to whoa at any time, and this will begin to develop the rear, the abs - the back. At this point, another 100 pages of the technicalities of collection could be written, but I'll leave that up to you to read up on.


That is a very very basic beginning exercise. It is the beginnings of teaching her to carry her body correctly. Once you get that down, you could put her back into a shanked bit (if you use one)and you'll notice a lighter feel and response and may even change bits at this point. Throw in some obstacles like poles or logs to step over - that type of movment also makes them lift their back and as a result, tighten up the abs. Just walk and trot this exercise for a couple of months. Boring, but effective in the long run.

SOme folks (depending on your discipline) start adding speed and rollbacks or others might begin lateral work - side passes - leg yields and whatnot. You don't have to try to be a WEG competitor - so pick and choose how far you want to take it. But as it is with any animal (or human) it will take some weeks before you see obvious results.

I'm no expert, but thanks for asking - I'm sure there are more qualified individuals on here who might have some ideas - I always start with collection, then leg yields working in some straightness and adding flexing exercises and don't even canter or lope until my horse is soft and bending. You could do a search on collection exercises and there is so much info you could apply - it could take you days to read it all.....
     
    08-14-2012, 06:05 PM
  #1227
Yearling
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Originally Posted by nuisance    
Ok Clippityclop... I'm curious about my mare, but never posted on the critique confo, never can get good confo shots. I know she's not perfect, sickle hocked. I'm using her just for pleasure, my pleasure, trail riding. What do you think of my QH? Wish I had better pics, but, I seem to forget my camera when I'm out there! Lol

Beckys Highlight Cat Quarter Horse

I agree with Kayella about her hocks being longer for her body than necessary, but I also know from personal experience that altho it doesn't fit the AQHA standard, it allows for a bigger walk and looser stride that some people enjoy and get hooked on - so does the longer pasterns. Does she have a naturally longer stride than other horses who ride along with you?

How hold is this mare? Is she younger than 5yrs? If so, the downhill look to her will probably even out. If not, that's okay too - the only time I see problems encountered with horses who have naturally longer hocks is in serious collection work like dressage or cutting - longer pasterns would be troublesome with repetitive jumping - both would be more arthritis prone.

Your mare is very pretty and looks great! She seems like a perfect horse for a long term trail riding companion, in my opinion. You should try out competitive trail riding. She'd probably be great at that and so would you if you love trail riding!
     
    08-14-2012, 06:12 PM
  #1228
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Kayella    
ETA: I've never really noticed how red Princess is. Jeez, like a copper penny!

That is a mare I'd add to any line of roping horses or cutters. She has great bone and muscle - and she'd make some really good looking babies - and you are right, that color is like WOW! She's one of those types that would add good genes to any foundation line of horses. She looks strong enough to compete with the boys in any class, but still looks feminine. I like her!

What is her new job nowadays? Did the buyers mention what their goals were for her?
     
    08-14-2012, 06:14 PM
  #1229
Yearling
(clippityclop is sorry she hogged up a whole page with her posts!)
     
    08-14-2012, 06:19 PM
  #1230
Started
Thanks clippityclop. I've switched bits around trying different ones for weeks at a time and she reacts the same way to all of them. She does great in a walk but when you move her up, she gets very high headed even without touching the reins. I started her with an O ring snaffle then a twisted O ring and now I'm on a short shank twisted snaffle. I even tried a sidepull and she had no stop at all. Sometimes it's very frustrating because she is very smart and full of heart but man is she STUBBORN! I've taught her to stand while mounting and to back but it took me weeks/months to do that. Previously when my hubby asked her to back she would just rare up, now she'll back around the arena with no problem:)
     

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