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        01-25-2013, 07:05 PM
      #11
    Trained
    I think part of the problem is that you think the horse is not where she "should" be. Should be based on what? Horses are individuals and have their own agendas. They to at their own pace. You could put 100 horses of like age and breeding and they will all have their own quirks, strengths and weaknesses. It would be like putting you up against another person your age and comparing you both in one skill. Are all six year old kids at the same level in everything? No.

    Accept your horse for who she is : a horse that is still learning jumping. You have nothing to compare her to since she's an individual.

    Now from a personal perspective..
    There are occasions when I simply don't want to ride. I still enjoy my horses company and we go hang out. I may not ride on a nice day but we'll go for a bike in the woods instead (I lead him). I'll free lunge him or do liberty work or teach him stupid tricks. I may not be riding him but he's still my buddy.

    Do you have a friendly relationship like that with your horse? Maybe you're not clicking?
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        01-25-2013, 07:14 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    More than 2 years? You have a lot of patience.

    I don't know your particular horse, but that is an exceedingly long time. I hope you find something with horses that brings back that early excitement you must have had at one time.
         
        01-25-2013, 07:18 PM
      #13
    Started
    There's nothing wrong with selling a horse you don't click with. There's nothing wrong with selling a horse you can't handle or don't enjoy having to deal with. But if you love the horse and feel the horse may someday be what you want - it's up to you, is it worth the energy or would you rather just look to buy something that can suit your needs right now? It sounds to me like this horse is perfect for you - she just needs more time and more practice.

    Not cantering jumps is incredibly common - most horses I know still opt to fall down to a trot a few strides before the jump - unless strongly urged otherwise. I believe the reason is because they haven't got full understanding of their strides/spacing/timing yet. Often if you spend a few weeks doing trot and canter ground poles you'll find your horse becomes MUCH more aware of where their feet are and how to adjust their strides to match up. I think practice is all that's needed.
    When you say you can't complete a whole course - why not? Does she get too over eager or out of control? What exactly does she do. I see many people mistake horses terrified of jumping with a horse who 'loves' it. They say, 'my horse gets so excited after we jump, he gets real forward' - but I find it's more because the horse doesn't have full control of timing and they get frantic after the jump. So maybe he needs more work on timing and control. Do you practice trotting and canter poles? Maybe do a jump course with all ground poles or raised ground poles at the canter to see how he does with that.
         
        01-25-2013, 07:29 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    DancingArabian is right on target in my book! But I'm not into jumping/showing/eventing either..... I own two lovely registered mares, and enjoy their company every single day whether I'm riding them or not. Actually, I do so much else with them in our interactions during feed times/pasture chores/groundwork/or simply just hanging out with them, I feel immensely fulfilled! The photo in my avatar was taken just yesterday in 9 deg (farenheit) temps - after a good brushing, we walked down to the mailbox, (a lengthy walk!), did groundwork, and they just enjoyed the rare sunshine and chilled out while I did chores....I must say that the peace and serenity in these kinds of days are worth all the money in the world. :)
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        01-26-2013, 08:29 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    As others here have said, if it's not fun then sell the mare and get a horse you can enjoy. Life is too darn short (and money too darn hard to come by) to waste it on a horse that you aren't having fun with!
         
        01-26-2013, 09:29 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Question for you. Your trainer thinks the horse is too much for her but not too much for you? That is very wrong

    Either the horse is too much for both of you but your instructor wanted to unload a problem and make money on it

    Or

    You are more advanced than your instructor which begs the question why is she your instructor.

    Sorry but if my horse is too much for an instructor then the instructor is not good enough for me.
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        01-26-2013, 10:10 AM
      #17
    Trained
    I didn't pick up on that conflict that Faye just cleared up. Maybe you should keep the horse and trade the instructor.

    Oh, I just reread the first post. I think you did change instructors. Hmmm.
         
        01-26-2013, 10:22 AM
      #18
    Started
    To do well with a horse in any equestrian discipline rider and horse eventually need to bond. Horses can be pickey and maybe there is something in your handling of the animal which is causing disharmony in it. You wrote earlier a thread describing problems which you are experiencing and that thread indicated that all was not well then.

    Ex racehorses usually come cheap but the basic training of a race horse is at odds with how a sensitive riding horse needs to be brought on as a youngster .
    All racehorses have to do is run fast in a straight line amid a mini herd of other horses. You need a horse which will carry you safely. Thorobreds tend to be intelligent and sharp - traits of character which come with the genes. They call for sensitive and sympathetic hands.

    You are seemingly ambitious about what you want to achieve - in return for the money you have to pay out to keep the horse. You ask whether you should call it quits - maybe you should UNLESS you believe that you can bring the horse round - or you find another equestrian speciality which suits the temperament of the horse better and gives you some pleasure.

    My guess is that your horse which presumably is still a youngster could do with some fundamental basic training which it did not get at the time of breaking to saddle for racing. Maybe going back to lunge work and classical training might bring the horse round but that will call for patience time persistence and knowledge on the part of the rider/trainer. Do you have the attitude to go down that route?

    If the problems you are experiencing give rise to your raising your voice or using a whip or being sharp with the animal - then if I were in your position then I'd call it quits - if I could find a good new owner for the horse.

    But if there was something in the horse which I liked then I'd go and find myself a dressage instructor rather than a jumping instructor.

    Remember the horse dervish you know is better than the dervish you don't yet know.

    But you choose.
         
        01-26-2013, 11:23 AM
      #19
    Foal
    There is nothing wrong with selling a horse you aren't clicking with and take a break from horses all together.

    I love horses, but they aren't the be all end all for me. If I got out of them I think it might be a bit of a relief, I own a boarding barn, and it's a lot of work, especially now that it's winter, so my perspective might be different than others. I know when I boarded my horse, I enjoyed the horse more as I could come out, love on her and go home. And if it was rainy, muddy and cold, I could just stay home!

    Don't get me wrong, when the weather is beautiful and the trees are all in bloom and the barn and yard are spotless and the horses are grazing or laying in the sun and I'm in a chair relaxing, there is nothing better in the world! I don't slag on my duties in the bad weather, just appreciate the nice days better. :)

    But anyway, I could take a break. I would miss them, but there would be no stopping me from later getting back into them. You could do the same, take a break if you want, be it for a month, a few years or the rest of your life!
         
        01-26-2013, 11:49 AM
      #20
    Foal
    Wow, lots of food for thought. I first off want to thank the people that gave me a few words of encouragement. You have no idea how much that means, and it's starting to motivate me again.

    To answer a few questions and feedback:
    She canters over jumps with no problem, she just gets excited and gains speed. Since she if OTTB he is super heavy on the front end. I am working hard on strengthening the back end.

    I think their is something to be said for the person who said that she may get anxious and need some work with timing when it comes to cantering jumps. She is a very anxious horse. For example I had tired to work on lead changes, when that happened she got so preoccupied with it and she knew that she needed to do it at certain times. Say when we are crossing the diagonal, that she would get all worked up into a tizzie. We had to take a step back from that and very gradually introduce it.

    She needs more work at the canter period, carrying herself, and using her back end. Once she does that I think I can start reintroducing jumping at the canter.

    To the person that brought up the whole trainer issue. In the beginning I needed a different trainer that had more experiance with the types of issues this horse had. I tried to move barns but it was very hard because we were friends and she took it personally. Luckly, I moved to a different state and had to find a new trainer. I think things would have been a lot different if I started with the trainer I have now. What it breaks down to is that we are having to start all over because I was misguided on what to do with her from the beginning.

    I wouldn't say we have a bounding problem, it has just been a long road. I think she will get there and has the world of potential. I have come to the conclusion that it's frustrating because for the last two years I have been riding her a different way. Asking her for different things. Now I have to 180 how I have been riding her, and what I have been doing. It is frustrating and hard but in the end I think it will be 100% worth it.

    I have decided I am going to stick with riding and keep the horse I have now. I want to thank everyone for all of their encouragement and knowledge. All of you are what helped me reach my decision. And keep me from making what may have been the worst decision of my life.

    Thanks again everyone, I really appreciate it.
         

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