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        01-11-2013, 06:19 PM
    Thinking of not gelding

    I have a coming 2 year old Classic American Shetland Pony. We attempted to geld him this past fall, but he would not go down with the anesthesia. It was a very traumatic experience, and set our training back a lot. He hadn't been handled a lot by the prior owner and was fairly wild.

    We have now gotten him back to the point of being able to touch/pet him and he runs towards us rather than away from us when he sees us coming. We will obviously be doing a lot more training as the weather improves.

    The initial plan was to geld him in the early spring when our other pony (a coming yearling) gets gelded. However, I'm considering keeping him intact. He has good conformation and good bloodlines. I'm planning on showing him at halter.

    We have four geldings on our property, plus the two colts. There are no mares.

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        01-11-2013, 06:31 PM
    Is he just "good" or does he represent everything his breed should be? What qualities do you want to see passed to his get besides life?
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        01-11-2013, 06:44 PM
    More importantly are you prepared for the possible stud attitude? I have met 2 studs this last year that were amazing until one day they just decided they were studs (One was 3 and one was 4-6). One was PTS (He went from puppy dog to hospitalizing his expeirenced owner) the other was gelded. With proper training and handling studs can be great but it takes a special skill at handling studs and the possibility is always there that he could fill the stereotype. So not to be a downer but this should be considered heavily ... there were no mares around either stud I met this last year either and they both just snapped one day. I've met good and bad studs but just keep in mind there is the possibility...
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        01-11-2013, 06:44 PM
    Hmm, it might make handling him further a problem, plus, I know over here in England, lots of mini breeds (shetlands, falas Etc) are unwanted, free to good home and there is no call for them, especially in the current economic climate. But that's in the UK, if there's a large demand for breeding them, then fair dues. However, if you have minimal intent on breeding him, then I'd have him cut (I understand you had problems, and he might not like you for a while after, but it sure beats him being all pent up and full of testosterone) I'd get him snipped before he gets into that stallion mentality (and small breeds are a pain for getting that real stallion attitude, and they find ways of getting out and getting to local mares - their size makes it so much easier!)
        01-11-2013, 06:53 PM
    I honestly don't know if I'll breed him. I need to see how he matures, and how he does in the show ring.
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        01-11-2013, 07:03 PM
    I guess my feeling is that 50 - 75% of a stallions value is in his personality. If this horse can't be easily caught, and is slow to warm up than really those are signs that he would not be a good stud. There are a lot of pretty stallions who are difficult to work with. In my opinion those are to difficult work with to be of value as breeding stock. If he is not easy to handle at this age, when he realizes he is a stud and all that goes with the stud could make him harder to handle. If you do decide to keep him as a stallion than you have to put all the work into making him 100% great to handle. He can't be 95% or even 98% he needs to have 100% perfect ground behaviors 100% of the time. At this time, he does not have those and that needs to happen.

    Housing is another concern. Where will he live? Can you safely keep him away from the mare and possibly (probably) the geldings as well?

    The other concern is that he is sensitive to anesthesia and is that an indication of other less then ideal genetic conditions? I would just worry about him passing on that drug sensitivity to offspring. Likewise, if his behavior worsens and you have to sedate him for routine things that can complicate life. Ie. If he can't be easily handled and is not safe for many vet procedures, or farrier procedures. Which would add to his risk.

    I would geld him, but I am going to say geld in 99.9% of the cases because stallions come with a whole lot of extra stuff that complicates life.
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        01-11-2013, 07:14 PM
    I think the best plan would be to have him gelded... I'm just considering the possibility of keeping him intact.

    Hr does already have a bit of a "studdy" attitude, so I don't think he'd be an easy stallion, for sure.
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        01-11-2013, 07:17 PM
    My plan would be to keep him with the geldings. We don't have a mare.

    I think the issue with the anesthesia was that he was so un trusting (we had just gotten him) that he simply refused to go down. It was a huge mistake to not wait on the castration until he trusted us more. :(
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        01-11-2013, 07:21 PM
    I own a 6 yr old tb stallion that I have had since he was 4 months. He is well behaved and actually easy to mange but there were some moments as a 2 and 3 yr old when he went "wow I'm a stallion" that were potentially extremely dangerous. I would suggest a few things for you to think about even though your guy is little. Who is on the property - we have no children or boarders to make a novice oops. How good is your fencing - be honest with yourself because he will test it hard especially if the mare down the road goes into heat. Who is going to handle him - mine is handled 90% by me, occasionally by my husband under my supervision so his handling is consistent. Why do you need a stallion - standing a stallion to the public can be aggravating and is not often a money maker, if you want to breed a few mares for yourself its a lot less work to drop them off at a reproduction station and a lot less risk and often cheaper to buy someone else's weanlings if you just want to work with youngstock.
    Not having mares on the property will be helpful as they can cause as many problems as the stud can - some are determined hussies when hormonal.
    That being said I love my guy and his stallioness - he has a strong sense of self and of justice, and that extra spark and presence and I have no regrets on keeping him intact.
        01-11-2013, 07:21 PM
    I would cut him. Talk to your vet and take his opinion over ours, obviously, but if you can work with him to get him to the point where he respects you, anesthetizing him will probably be less traumatic.
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