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post #11 of 34 Old 01-18-2013, 04:02 PM
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Haha not if the people are in with them. They are many ways to transport animals on a plane. I suppose it depends what you are willing to pay that will matter where they are on the plane and how they are tended too. I was referring to the animals that are in cargo hold only, not where people are.
Again, I call BS, What are your sources??

Horses are ALWAYS supervised by humans in air transport.

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The pilots that fly with these animals in the cargo hold. The simple fact is they will not risk a fire on a plane with humans if they can put it out. What does a fire need? Oxygen. So without filling the cargo hold with water what is the easiest way to put out a fire? Take out the oxygen it needs to live. They will not state that as a possibility if you sign up to put fluffy in the cargo hold below the passengers. And the fact remains that sometimes they have faulty fire alarms and there is no fire. But they cannot send someone down there to check.
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The pilots that fly with these animals in the cargo hold. The simple fact is they will not risk a fire on a plane with humans if they can put it out. What does a fire need? Oxygen. So without filling the cargo hold with water what is the easiest way to put out a fire? Take out the oxygen it needs to live. They will not state that as a possibility if you sign up to put fluffy in the cargo hold below the passengers. And the fact remains that sometimes they have faulty fire alarms and there is no fire. But they cannot send someone down there to check.
What airlines?? Also what airline would allow horses to travel unsupervised?? Can you provide documentation of this "protocol"??

I can say the president himself told me I'm the worlds greatest dressage rider, but until I produce documentation it's called "hearsay" which is around the same level as mindless gossip. Please don't spread crap lies on the internet until you are prepared to back it up with documentation. Not one person I know who has flown a horse in transport has had their attention brought to such a BS protocol.
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Hahaha. I believe I said in my op that horses might be different than smaller animals. I'm talking smaller animals. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to :)
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Hahaha. I believe I said in my op that horses might be different than smaller animals. I'm talking smaller animals. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to :)
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Firstly, considering that this is a thread/forum about horses/transporting horses, what airlines do with small animals is absolutely irrelevant.

Secondly, please do not state false crap about airlines "sucking air" away from horses, and animal in general. PETA wigs out when a stallion is kept away from other horses. I imagine if airlines actually did "suck oxygen" away from animals there would have already have been a huge uproar, especially with the recent Boeing issues (Q&A: Dreamliner woes explained - CNN.com). I have seen no mention of fatalities, human or animal.

Produce documentation that pet/animal owners must sign that their animal may be killed on a pilots whim and I will believe you. Until then I'll assume you pulled the whole story from where the sun don't shine.

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No worries. I haven't made it up but that's ok if you think so. Really doesn't bother me any. Maybe when I have time I will find the document my dad signed when he shipped a dog and send it to you but I'm busy and that's low on my priorities.
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I've shipped long distances quite often (I live up beside Alaska actually, and regularly we haul to BC or Alberta - up to 24 hour hauls).

If you stop often to allow them to rest (they can even stay in the trailer! We try not to unload, as often we're hauling 8 or more horses some of who don't load very well), it's not an issue. Bed deep, offer water (though ours dont eat or drink much while hauling).

I am possibly hauling my mare from here to Manitoba this summer (so like 40 hours or something) and for that one, I'm probably bringing portable corral panels that I can set up alongside my trailer for overnight stops.

Your choice on whether to use coolers/travel boots/etc. We never do.

If it were me and I had the option of buying a truck and trailer, that's what I would do. I've known some excellent horse haulers, but also heard not so good things about others... and I'd rather not trust my horse to anyone.

I'd also stay away from ferries if you need to be on for more than a day at a time. Besides the stress of being on a boat, I can just see the mess that a horse in a trailer on a ferry could cause :S even WITH cleaning the trailer. Plus, ferries are expensive if you take a vehicle on (from what I remember anyway!).

I'd never consider flying a horse purely for the shipping cost.
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Three of my horses travelled from the UK to the US. They did the journey by horsebox to the docks, ferry to Amsterdam, plane from Amsterdam to New York then to quarantine by trailer and finally to their new home by trailer again. They coped fine with all of it
The Commercial airlines are adapted to carry the horses that travel in purpose built crates - in the case of ours each crate held 3 horses in separate compartments.
The wonderful groom stayed with them for the entire air trip, they are constantly checked and have to be under supervision the entire time - they do not get treated like dogs etc. They are too big and if they begin to panic or have some problem things can go terribly wrong really fast
I will tell you I was a complete emotional wreck when they came to collect them but the man did such an amazing job of reassuring and calming me I knew they were in good hands.
Long trips with animals are best left in the hands of experts who are used to it all and the faster you can get the horse from A to B the better it is for the horse as standing in one position for a long time has a mental and physical strain - understandably finances do come into it.
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No worries. I haven't made it up but that's ok if you think so. Really doesn't bother me any. Maybe when I have time I will find the document my dad signed when he shipped a dog and send it to you but I'm busy and that's low on my priorities.
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But apparently not too busy to spread false information :)

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But apparently not too busy to spread false information :)

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Only according to you. You also haven't proved me wrong yet :)
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