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    03-11-2013, 10:24 PM
  #21
Weanling
If it were my horse, He would get a good punch to the face instead of a measly slap and then I would move his feet and make him think he was about to meet jesus.

IF you are fair about said punch ( like ONE well landed punch, Not treating your horse like a speed bag), you won't have to deal with a headshy horse. They quickly learn what earned them that punch, and that your not just a random punch throwing maniac..

I have landed many face punches in my years with horses and have never made one headshy.
     
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    03-11-2013, 10:28 PM
  #22
Weanling
Ok so I didnt read the whole thread before posting..

If he bites and then anticipates your slapping by dodging- He thinks its a game... If you can't land a good wack on him then don't attempt it at all, because it reinforces that its a "game"..

So yeah, I would give a good stern NO! And then make his arse WORK.
     
    03-11-2013, 10:47 PM
  #23
Weanling
Moving his feet is a good idea....
What do you think about the "stand" method, though?
I think it would save a lot of frustration.
Because for a horse to be punished,meh would have done something frustrating.
But if he just makes a tiny attempt to be aggressive, I tell him to stand and he focuses. That saves a lot of frustration.
     
    03-11-2013, 10:59 PM
  #24
Banned
It would seem that a bop on the nose is nothing to him. If I were you, I'd knock the everlasting stuff out of him with the end of a lead rope. Throw a bucket at him, whatever is handy.

You don't have to be strong, just smart, and we can use any item that is around us at the time. A stick on the ground, a bucket, a lead rope, take off your shoe and throw it at him.

Your horse is making a mockery of you, and it needs to stop before he hurts you.
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    03-11-2013, 10:59 PM
  #25
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher5    
No hugs and kisses???? That's impossible I could never live without hugging my poneh...but I don't give him any treats anymore and this seems to improve his behaviour. Ah, I forgot to say, he only does this when he's not haltered, only when I approach him on the paddock with nothing with me. Oh...and anything physical I do to punish him makes him furious and he attacks back. But I will try yelling loud at the same time so that it's like a double blow, so that he forgets to attack again. I will try....I'll keep you updated on him!
hugs and kisses when he is behaving himself....what others have said about moving their feet is what has to be done..i've done it and it works!!
Watch clinton anderson lunging for respect video if you are unsure of were to start..we have 7 horses and we feed together if I wasnt the lead mare lol when I went to feed id get my head kicked in. They know I say get back they do it, respect is everything if you don't have it on the ground, haltered or not, you will not have it in the saddle please give it a try..good luck
     
    03-11-2013, 11:04 PM
  #26
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher5    
Moving his feet is a good idea....
What do you think about the "stand" method, though?
I think it would save a lot of frustration.
Because for a horse to be punished,meh would have done something frustrating.
But if he just makes a tiny attempt to be aggressive, I tell him to stand and he focuses. That saves a lot of frustration.
Hey Dreamcatcher, I have read the hole thread, the getting him to move away from you as soon as he gets aggressive is the best addvice.
Now about your question about "stand" I don't think it will have the affect you are hoping for. In your horses mind everything is about holding and yelding ground. Horses equate holding ground as winning, its all about food. If I am a horse I want all the food I can get. The food (grass) I am standing on is the food I get. If you move me you get my food. Now you are the trainer, you are the leader of the heard, no matter what happens you take ground from any and all horses you do not give ground. Backing away is loseing ground. If your horse nips at you and you back away he wins, if he nips and you stand your ground and so does he the "fight" is not over, if he nips at you and you make him move away YOU WIN.
There are a lot of ways to make him move away, the tail of your lead rope getting aggresive arm up moving fast. The thing to do is GET BIG!!! Make him move. The stand command is not going to get him to move his feet and lose ground.
At first do this with a lead rope or something in your hand just incase your horse doesn't like losing. Be ready for some ugly looks but best thing is to make him move then invite him back to you like nothing is wrong.
Good luck let us know how you are doing
     
    03-11-2013, 11:21 PM
  #27
Showing
I think the standing may not work as well as getting the horse to WORK MORE for their bad behavior. That's more of a correction, IMOP, than asking them to stand still.
     
    03-12-2013, 01:04 AM
  #28
Yearling
I'm not sure if you said how old your boy is, but I read something recently that talked about why young horses nip and why slapping them will do very little to get them to stop. Young horses nip instinctively as a way of learning how to do the whole pecking order thing. Young horses together will nip at eachother back and forth until one gives up. By you hitting him after he nips does nothing but make him want to nip you again. Like everyone else has said, you need to get after him and chase him away. Horses are pack animals, and don't like to be alone. If by nipping you he learns he won't get to be by you, he'll stop.
     
    03-12-2013, 01:28 AM
  #29
Super Moderator
Remember, you wrote title of this thread as "this is UNACCEPTABLE" .
That's the attitude you must carry with you. NO excuses, no mitigation, no maybe I'll ask him to stand, maybe I'll . . .

It's unacceptable for him to bite you and for this to be allowed to continue. So, with that firm thought, next time he nips at you, you EXPLODE at him. Scare the living daylights out of him. Swing the rope end hard at him , yell, jump up and down. Make him go wth? For something like 8 seconds of a blast of negative energy. He will move his feet, for sure. He'll see you in a whole new light, I guarantee it.

Remember the title of your thread!
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    03-12-2013, 01:34 AM
  #30
Trained
If the horse, is tied & he nips at you, moving his feet won't work. The smack on the nose becomes a game, because you've smacked him and he did it again. When a horse lands a bite on me, I punch right on the neck or face, where ever is handy and yell. All it takes is one time, no more biting.
     

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