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        09-13-2013, 12:06 PM
      #1
    Green Broke
    Vent - Buyers and Sellers, Lets Hear Your Stories!

    I would love to hear your experiences about 'interesting' buyers that have come to see a horse you were selling, or sellers you have concidered buying from. I think experiences like these are important for potential buyer/sellers to be aware of.

    I'm getting frustrated. I've bought many horses, but typically they are problem horses, untouched, from auctions, etc. I bought two weanlings from reputable dealers. I hear constantly about how terrible sellers are, but I have only seen a few cases of sellers drugging a horse, lying, etc. On the other hand, I have tons of experience with annoying/crazy buyers. For example:

    I constantly get stupid inquiries from people. I put "6 year old mare, for confident intermediate-experienced rider" and get responses like "How old is she, and is she suitable for a beginner?"(Literally, got that response last night)
    Then there was the light boned mare that I specifically said in the add and on the phone was only suitable to a light/small rider, and the girl that shows up is 350lb.
    Or the ones that come meet the horse, spend hours of your time, only to tell you that they have to sell their unregistered yearling with a bowed tendon first, and they wont take less than $1200, but they were sure he would sell soon, could you just hold her for them until then?
    Then you have the buyer that have been told coming out early/unannounced is a good way to see if a seller is hiding things. So they show up while a crisis is happening, the prized stallion is colicing and the vet is pouring fluids down his throat. Or at 9pm, when every ones asleep. Or in the morning, when the BO that works nights just went to bed.
         
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        09-13-2013, 12:15 PM
      #2
    Yearling
    There is showing up early and then there is just plain rude. I retired out of the military so my natural inclination in anything is to show up 15 mins early for anything...it is just habit, plus, I never know, or knew, what I would hit by way of traffic. If I didn't hit the traffic I expected, as long as I wasn't excessively early, I didn't wait to show up. The other courtesy thing I always do is call if I am going to be late due to traffic etc. even if it will or would be a short few minutes.

    As for someone showing up unannounced late at night..I would have a few choice words for them. That isn't being cautious..that is just plain discourteous especially if it were my private property. I don't call that coming to see if something strange is being done with or to a potential horse....I call it trespassing.
         
        09-13-2013, 12:53 PM
      #3
    Trained
    I got so tired of the rude, negative, and flat crazy buyers that I totally switched breeds. I just could not remain polite and friendly anymore. So now, I go totally through a broker. I send the horses out to be started to this guy, he gets 60 days on them, we discuss the price range we feel is realistic and I don't hear from anyone again until he calls me up and tells me he's got a check. That suits me just fine, I don't have people showing up just any old time or doing weird things or.....whatever. LOL!
         
        09-13-2013, 01:03 PM
      #4
    Banned
    This thread is perfect. I just got back from an "experience".

    I talked to a girl earlier in the week about perhaps half leasing my new guy due to me needing to keep him on a regular work schedule and finding that to be harder and harder with working and class full time.

    Well, we set up today for her to come and look at him and make sure they got along, go over the contract, etc. She told me she would be in a hurry so she didnt mind if I went ahead and started saddling him up and stuff. Normally, I would let the buyer/lessee do that so they could see he has no saddling issues but I was like "okay sure, whatever".

    When she got out there she got on him and it was immediately a "get off" type of situation. She said there was no way he was trained english like I claimed because he listened too much to her seat and legs (what?!?), "he tries to fight the bit when I hold his head in frame" (again..WHAT?!), among other things.

    I tried to give helpful feedback like "please loosen your reins", etc but that didnt help so I kindly told her I had other people coming to look and that I would keep in touch.

    She then said "great! Will there be someone to saddle him up for me on the days I want to ride?"

    That's when I decided this morning was a complete waste of time and I will have no one lease him if my only option is her.

    Ugh. People.

    Also, I looked at so many horses that werent even close to what they were advertised as being before I found Whiskey. And even he was not 100% represented in his ad.
         
        09-13-2013, 04:04 PM
      #5
    Green Broke
    I have more

    Friend bought a gelding. Had no one to help her(and she tends to be in a hurry and make snap decisions), but was volunteering at a trail riding place that was run by an experienced horseman who was previously a popular trainer. He told her the horse was 15.2hh, 10 years old. A month later she moved him to where I board. He was 14.3hh, 25 years old and had cancer. A year later the cancer is spreading, and he had developed a dangerous tripping/falling habit that forced his owner to retire him completely from riding.

    My BO has had multiple awful experiences with trials. One horse came back with its mane and tail shaved completely off.
         
        09-13-2013, 06:13 PM
      #6
    Yearling
    I can name several, from my own personnel selling experiences. Usually it's only the ones who show up and buy them that I like.

    Lets see there's the several emails and calls asking to lower my price by half. Had a lady look at a pony I had priced at $400, rode him then emailed me to say she didnt really have the money.

    My favorite was when I was selling a 12 hand pony. My ad said cute "pony" mare, height was listed, she was the typical short no neck pony build. I got an email asking if she'd be good for this woman's 15 year old daughter to jump. Really? I wrote back if she's really small, as I'm only 5'1" and don't use a saddle on her and my feet aren't far off the ground.

    I had only lady waste my whole day. She said shed come in the morning, apparently I was supposed to call her and say to still come?

    I've had so many of my barrel horses listed as well barrel horses and be asked if they could do western pleasure or jumping.

    The complete beginners who show up and can't ride the horse. So I end up giving a mini lesson.

    The one person who showed up an hour early during a horse show while I was still riding my other horse. So I rushed to tie her up and get the one I was selling out only to be told she was to small. Yes a horse listed as small and 14 hands does tend to be small, who knew.

    Then lastly the people who bought the 2 year old filly seemed like they knew what they were doing. I waited around and they came at 11pm to see her to beat another prospective buyer who was coming in the morning. Wanted me to guarantee her 100% sound in writing and if they found out she wasn't they brought her back and got there money back. I don't guarantee anything 100% sound, it's a horse as far as I knew nothing was wrong. Get a vet check before you pay for them. Plus they were going to drive her 6 hours home when she's only been hauled a few times. They threatened to bring her back after pulling out and realized I didn't write that on the bill of sale, I just said bring her back. They didnt though.

    People are crazy, I hate selling for those reasons.
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        09-13-2013, 06:43 PM
      #7
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DriftingShadow    
    This thread is perfect. I just got back from an "experience".

    When she got out there she got on him and it was immediately a "get off" type of situation. She said there was no way he was trained english like I claimed because he listened too much to her seat and legs (what?!?), "he tries to fight the bit when I hold his head in frame" (again..WHAT?!), among other things.

    I tried to give helpful feedback like "please loosen your reins", etc but that didnt help so I kindly told her I had other people coming to look and that I would keep in touch.

    She then said "great! Will there be someone to saddle him up for me on the days I want to ride?"

    That's when I decided this morning was a complete waste of time and I will have no one lease him if my only option is her.
    I'd have to agree with you on that one...she obviously doesn't know HOW to ride english properly. Who wouldn't figuratively kill for a horse that listens to seat and legs???? If he was listening to seat and legs (and the proper use thereof which I doubt in the rider) then he more than likely wasn't fighting the bit. A case of, "I know more than everyone else..." attitude and I wouldn't let anyone like that within 100 miles of my horse.
         
        09-13-2013, 06:53 PM
      #8
    Yearling
    As I was told by many while I was looking and it goes for the seller as well. There are a lot of horses out there and just as many buyers. Some of the situations I see here..like having someone come out at 11 pm (not the seller allowing but the gall of someone to request it), is just crazy. Threatening to bring the horse back because you didn't write something into the contract...and they signed the contract without reading it first??

    I said it before..simple courtesy which many in society seem to have forgotten about.
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        09-13-2013, 07:00 PM
      #9
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tlkng1    
    As I was told by many while I was looking and it goes for the seller as well. There are a lot of horses out there and just as many buyers. Some of the situations I see here..like having someone come out at 11 pm (not the seller allowing but the gall of someone to request it), is just crazy. Threatening to bring the horse back because you didn't write something into the contract...and they signed the contract without reading it first??

    I said it before..simple courtesy which many in society seem to have forgotten about.
    The more fun part of that was the girl pestered me all day, I explained I was working and had no set time to get off plus I had a 2 hour drive home. I thought I was dealing with a teenager, I was only 18. She was older than me.
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        09-14-2013, 08:19 PM
      #10
    Foal
    I once went to look at a Quarter Horse gelding that had been advertised as good for an intermediate rider. I got there ten minutes early and the owner was already lunging the horse, and it looked like she had been at it for a long time. This immediately made me suspicious. She continued lunging him for another fifteen minutes, and then wanted me to lunge him longer.
    She saddled him extremely slow.. and then once I was on she told me that I should only walk, not trot or canter.
    I don'r really know what the story behind this horse was, but I did walk away without a second thought.
         

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