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        12-13-2009, 04:36 PM
      #1
    Weanling
    Very Important Question Regarding Potential Leasing Situation!

    I am fourteen years old and have been working as a volunteer at High Point Stables for the past four years. I do not receive payment, but instead, I get one lesson each week free of charge. For the past year, I have been training and riding the stable owner's Mustang gelding, Cody. We have formed a great team, and even competed in many local shows. We have truly come a long way...

    My parents are not financially stable ENOUGH to purchase me my very own horse. However, Jan, the stable owner thinks that I should half lease Cody. Typically, that would cost $250 per month and I would get to ride twice a week. She said that I could possibly work off some of the payment down to $200...but my parents said $150 is their final offer. How do I convince Jan or whatnot? I am already working as much as possible over winter vacation, summer vacation and spring vacation. Do you think she'll be alright with this? I still want to ride twice a week, because it would be pointless to PAY and ride once a week when I get that for free, ya know? By the way, I ADORE this pony!!!
         
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        12-13-2009, 05:33 PM
      #2
    Yearling
    Hmm do you have anything that you could trade like not even some thing to do with horses.
         
        12-13-2009, 05:52 PM
      #3
    Weanling
    Tasia,
    She shouldn't be this hesitant to allow me to pay $150 each month, even for two rides. Every Saturday, and three-four days a week for the next two weeks, all of summer vacation and all of spring break I help her out and do the following...

    -Feed all the horses
    -Water all the horses
    -Muck stalls
    -Do shavings
    -Tack/Untack Lesson Horses
    -Assist with lessons
    -Groom & Bodyclip horses
    -Clean Tack & Tackroom
    -Do Laundry
    -Etc..
    -Take care of things during the shows (handling, tacking, cleaning, organizing)
         
        12-14-2009, 04:46 AM
      #4
    Weanling
    I'm confused. Would half leasing get you two full days with the horse, plus you keep your one lesson you pay for by working at the barn? So basically, $250 buys you 8 days with the horse? What would a full lease get you, and how much would it cost (I know you can't afford that, but just for comparison to see if the BO is giving you a good deal with the two days per week for $250)?
         
        12-14-2009, 07:46 AM
      #5
    Banned
    All you can do is ask, and you have nothing to lose by doing so.

    And here's the argument I would make - you've been acquiring more skills/being more useful around the barn as you've grown older. So while it's true that youi can't give the barn any more hours, you're doing more skilled/more valuable work during those hours. Body clipping, assisting with lessons, show prep and tacking/untacking requires more skill and responsiblity than the other chores on that list. Ask her if there are some other things she would like you to learn to do that would be more valuable to her.

    Good luck and I hope this works out for you!
         
        12-14-2009, 09:16 AM
      #6
    Foal
    It may just be me and i'm just out of touch with the real world, but it seems to me that you are being taken advantage of. Come out to oklahoma and do all that stuff for me and i'll give you a horse and board it free. All you have to do is buy the feed. Also you can ride it any time you please that you're not doing chores. I see no advantage in you paying a lease (1/2 lease) to gain one ride a week.
    I'm not trying to start a feud down in florida, but fair is fair. You keep on doing the same thing you're doing now and put whatever amount you and your folks can afford to pay in a fund down at the bank. Call it "my own horse fund" and while it grows be looking around for your perfect horse. While all this is going down, you are becoming indispensable at the stable. The more you willingly do and the more you learn, the more you will be needed and counted on.
    Just a thought.
    Wish you the best in this. Remember that the world is full of people who will take advantage if they get a chance. Not saying that's what's happening here.
         
        12-14-2009, 09:55 AM
      #7
    Yearling
    I agree with Strawboss, it sounds like you are being taken advantage of. About how many hours a week are you actually putting in there when you are on vacation, and how many when you are in school?
         
        12-14-2009, 10:04 AM
      #8
    Foal
    I have to agree with Strawboss also I see that you have very little to gain, I know you love the pony and sometimes that is the hardest part but where I am from a half lease at 150 or 200$ gets you alot more than one ride a week, heck our outdoor boarding is 175$ for a month. So incomparsion you are not getting a whole lot. I would not be afraid to ask what else she is willing to do for you. It sounds like you are doing a great job and she should let you ride. Is there anyone else riding the same horse or is it just you? Good luck
         
        12-14-2009, 10:11 AM
      #9
    Banned
    To know what is reasonable to offer we kind of need to know what things cost normally at your barn. How much is full board? How much do lessons cost? How many horses are there (to know how much work you are doing)?
         
        12-14-2009, 11:59 AM
      #10
    Trained
    Sounds to me like you are putting in more than you are getting.
    I was getting full lease in NJ (normally expensive area) for $150 a month. I was there every day during the summer riding, but also helped out at their produce stand, sold christmas trees, mucked stalls, etc.

    I agree with AlwaysBehind. How much would they be paying you if you weren't working? You need to attach a monetary value to your work because it seems like you are doing quite a bit. Another place I worked at did the equivilent of $6 an hour. So for every 4ish hours I worked, I got an hour of riding. That ended up becoming more of an exercise posistion, but at least I knew I needed to do x amount of work for one hour.

    Point of my rambling?

    I would not pay $250 for two rides a week. IMO that is completely outrageous.
         

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