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post #1 of 8 Old 09-18-2010, 10:36 PM Thread Starter
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Warmbloods i didnt know what forum I should put this in

So for the past couple months I have been looking at to many 17-18hh warmbloods for sale. I already have a 16hh 5 year old arabian mare and a 15.2hh quarter horse but I have been actually considering selling them I know this may sound ridiculous; but I cant stop thinking about it also my instructor who is also a very good friend is the breeder of my mare and I dont think she would understand. I have also considered breeding my mare to a thouroughbred or warmblood but my instructor does not agree with me about this either and believes I should breed her to Enzo, I really do not like Enzo but I do not know how to talk to her about all of this.

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post #2 of 8 Old 09-19-2010, 07:40 AM
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I don't exactly know what the question is...

But if you don't want your horse I don't think you should breed it. There are plenty of lovely horses out there, and by the time you've raised your foal it will probably have been cheaper to buy a three year old.

Look at why you want to sell your horses. If you don't know what the reasons are, buying another horse might not solve your problems. Perhaps you're just looking for a bigger horse, or maybe your horses aren't good at your discipline, or maybe you just want something new. Before going out, selling your horses, and buying more, make sure you know what your motivations are.

Your instructor is just someone you pay to teach you. Its a business arrangement. If she is your friend as well, I guess its different, but you should do what you want to do. Look at her advice though, perhaps breeding your mare to a warmblood isn't practical. Consider all available information and be decisive in your actions.
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So for the past couple months I have been looking at to many 17-18hh warmbloods for sale. I already have a 16hh 5 year old arabian mare and a 15.2hh quarter horse but I have been actually considering selling them I know this may sound ridiculous; but I cant stop thinking about it also my instructor who is also a very good friend is the breeder of my mare and I dont think she would understand. I have also considered breeding my mare to a thouroughbred or warmblood but my instructor does not agree with me about this either and believes I should breed her to Enzo, I really do not like Enzo but I do not know how to talk to her about all of this.

Thank you,


Who is Enzo...a stallion she owns or has an interest in?

If so it seems she wants to make money off you. Is Enzo a Arab for I can see the breeder of your Arab mare wanting to to keep the gene pool clean with only Arabian.

If it is any other breed then there is a motive behind her suggestion that may not be in your best interest.

As far as breeding...if your mare is of good quality then sure breed if you wish.

Just for your information Arab or Anglo Arabs have crossed very very successfully with warmbloods and
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Who is Enzo...a stallion she owns or has an interest in?

If so it seems she wants to make money off you. Is Enzo a Arab for I can see the breeder of your Arab mare wanting to to keep the gene pool clean with only Arabian.

If it is any other breed then there is a motive behind her suggestion that may not be in your best interest.

As far as breeding...if your mare is of good quality then sure breed if you wish.

Just for your information Arab or Anglo Arabs have crossed very very successfully with warmbloods and
Enzo does not belong to her he is a Arabian here is his website
Arabian Stallion ENZO
I do know that arabs have made good crosses with warmbloods that is what I want to do but I do not know how to convince my coach that it would be a good idea
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Enzo does not belong to her he is a Arabian here is his website
Arabian Stallion ENZO
I do know that arabs have made good crosses with warmbloods that is what I want to do but I do not know how to convince my coach that it would be a good idea
A coach's job is to teach and advise...nothing more. Your best bet is to find a person in your area that knows the local warmbloods that are available and have that person look at your mare. Maybe your mare will not match any and maybe they know of others that will. The reason to have an outsider do this as there will be less of a biased risk with either negative interests or interests that are solely biased.

I could be that if your mare is bred your coach would lose a student for a period of time or could be they are the kind that get stuck on one stud to the exclusion of all others or that they feel the gene pool should remain pure. Or it could be as breeder of your mare they still feel an attachment and secretly want it to go in a predesignated path.

None of the above will give you an unbiased opinion. Remember the mare is yours and if you feel you want to improve upon this mare and decide to breed it then you REALLY need an outside opinion and one that has experience to back up any suggestion they may make.

There are stallion owners that can do this in spite of owning and promoting their stallion so you can try this route also.
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A coach's job is to teach and advise...nothing more. Your best bet is to find a person in your area that knows the local warmbloods that are available and have that person look at your mare. Maybe your mare will not match any and maybe they know of others that will. The reason to have an outsider do this as there will be less of a biased risk with either negative interests or interests that are solely biased.

I could be that if your mare is bred your coach would lose a student for a period of time or could be they are the kind that get stuck on one stud to the exclusion of all others or that they feel the gene pool should remain pure. Or it could be as breeder of your mare they still feel an attachment and secretly want it to go in a predesignated path.

None of the above will give you an unbiased opinion. Remember the mare is yours and if you feel you want to improve upon this mare and decide to breed it then you REALLY need an outside opinion and one that has experience to back up any suggestion they may make.

There are stallion owners that can do this in spite of owning and promoting their stallion so you can try this route also.
Okay thank you, I will talk to the people in my town who own warmbloods and see what their opinion is.
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It sounds like to me (just judging from your post) that the single only reason you want to get rid of your horses is to get a warmblood. If that's the case, then it is ridiculous to even consider breeding your horse in the hopes of getting something you want. Do yourself and your horses a favor and sell them. Find them homes where they are loved and find yourself a horse that you are happy with. It's a win win.
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post #8 of 8 Old 09-20-2010, 12:28 AM
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I agree with sandy2u1.
Do you really want to wait a few years until the foal is old enough to be ridden, and it may not turn out to be what you wanted in a horse? Or do you want to just sell the ones you have now, and buy one that's exactly what you're looking for and that you can ride right after you buy it?


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