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    04-27-2012, 02:17 PM
  #21
Foal
We have seen several cases of rabies in Arkansas this year too. Thankfully I get vaccinated for it through my employer (state veterinary diagnostic lab) as we have suspected positive samples come in regularly.

Of course this means that if anyone in my family finds any suspicious dead animals guess who gets to dispose of it because she is already vaccinated?
     
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    05-03-2012, 03:41 PM
  #22
Foal
The thing with bats if it you have a bunch in an enclosed area like a cave or an attic, the rabies virus can be transmitted through the air.
     
    05-03-2012, 09:16 PM
  #23
Weanling
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Originally Posted by nnika    
There is a 100% fatally rate with HUMANS as soon as symptoms show. And...most human cases of rabies are caused by BAT bites. Which is scary because most people never know they are bitten by a bat because the puncture wounds are tiny and not very painful. So if you are sleeping (or drunk etc) and get bit and don't realize (and don't get the shots for it).... and then two weeks later you get symptoms that turn out to be rabies symptoms... there's literally nothing they can do.
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Originally Posted by nnika    

Which is super scary!
So... stray dogs and cats are *usually* the least of your worries. Because if you get bitten by one of them you go and get the "emergency" shots.

I can't source any of this... I work at an animal shelter and this was just the info we've been given. (We also all get rabies shots for free) ... which is good because theres no quick test to find out if the animal that just bit you has rabies. They have to chop off its head and test it's brain.

Not trying to freak anyone out! But if you have reason to believe you're at a high risk to catch it... I would look into the vaccine.



A few years back my g pa got bit by a bat in oklahoma...we had a fun time squishing its brains out with tennis rackets after that so the results would show whether it was rabid or not so we assumed so sincce it had randomly entered the house and randomly chose a person to sink its teeth into. My gpa got rabies shots anyway and it all turned out ok:)
     
    05-04-2012, 01:57 AM
  #24
Weanling
I live in sw mo. My sister just went through the shots. She got bit by we neighbors dog, who is normally a sweet timid little thing. Sister was out in the yard and dog pinned her by the fence and attacked her. Anywho, owners refused to have dog tested, had no proof of vaccinations. She informed me the shots cost $10,000. She'll be taking them to court to make them pay for everything but my point is it cost like $10 in my area at least to vaccinate vs $10,000 for emergency shots.
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    05-04-2012, 07:45 AM
  #25
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by nnika    
There is a 100% fatally rate with HUMANS as soon as symptoms show. And...most human cases of rabies are caused by BAT bites. Which is scary because most people never know they are bitten by a bat because the puncture wounds are tiny and not very painful. So if you are sleeping (or drunk etc) and get bit and don't realize (and don't get the shots for it).... and then two weeks later you get symptoms that turn out to be rabies symptoms... there's literally nothing they can do.

Which is super scary!
So... stray dogs and cats are *usually* the least of your worries. Because if you get bitten by one of them you go and get the "emergency" shots.

I can't source any of this... I work at an animal shelter and this was just the info we've been given. (We also all get rabies shots for free) ... which is good because theres no quick test to find out if the animal that just bit you has rabies. They have to chop off its head and test it's brain.

Not trying to freak anyone out! But if you have reason to believe you're at a high risk to catch it... I would look into the vaccine.
Slow down there, Chicken Little. I'm sorry- but to state "facts" for which you have no actual factual back up for is just irresponsible and fear-mongering. Bat BITES are so rare it's laughable that you are stating that bat bites are the prmary source of human rabies infection (it is also untrue). The primary non-domestic carriers of rabies (and also more likely to interact with humans) are racoons and skunks. The only "fact" in your statements above that has any semblence of truth to it is in regards to the undetected bites/skin breaks caused by bats due to small teeth and claws. There are actually multiple documented cases of humans surviving rabies post-symptom detection using one of a couple of medical protocols that involve medically induced comas.
     
    05-04-2012, 01:21 PM
  #26
Weanling
I'm having visions of people running about biting eachother ala Zombieland. Quite entertaining!
     
    05-04-2012, 10:21 PM
  #27
Yearling
I remember when I was a kid being bitten by a stray cat, skin was punctured, and I was so terrified of getting 'all those painful shots in my stomach' that I never told my parents.
I know rabies is rarely actually contracted by humans, but as it is so dangerous, I wonder why they have not developed a vaccine for people?
Ah, lemme guess. Cost.
     
    05-04-2012, 10:38 PM
  #28
Green Broke
My hubby being a vet gets vaccinated for rabies. I know they are still very careful, I was working one day and hubby called to ask if I was busy, I said yes , but what's up? He said he had just been bitten by a sick stay, AWA cat and needed the cats head taken to Jefferson City to be tested for rabies. Okay now what am I going to say to that, sorry babe but I have to much else to do.
No currier services will handle that type of hazardous material, so I left work to take the cat head to Jeff City, It was negative.

I know they had a positive bat bite on a client, person, the same year as the cat incident.
     
    05-04-2012, 11:13 PM
  #29
Foal
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Originally Posted by themacpack    
Bat BITES are so rare it's laughable that you are stating that bat bites are the prmary source of human rabies infection (it is also untrue). The primary non-domestic carriers of rabies (and also more likely to interact with humans) are racoons and skunks. . .
Actually, according to the WHO (WHO | Rabies) "Bats are the source of most human rabies deaths in the United States of America and Canada." (I remembered seeing this so I visited Google.) So it depends on whether you're talking about suspected exposure or actual deaths, which might be what nnika was talking about.

Note, according to the same WHO page above, that "Worldwide, more than 55 000 people die of rabies every year. . . Dogs are the source of 99% of human rabies deaths. . . 95% of human deaths occur in Asia and Africa" - so the case in N America & Europe is very different than that in the developing world.

The prominence of bats in human rabies deaths here is mostly because rabies deaths are so rare in the US - exposure to dogs, raccoons, skunks is much more common, but you know when it happens, and you get those shots. Rabies DEATHS happen when it goes untreated, which is usually when the exposure is not recognized (or in dumb kids like Skipsfirstspike was - no offense!!!) And that's most common with bats - say one that blundered into the house & was in the room as you slept - and it is true that the bites are so small that they aren't visible without magnification and knowing right where to look. The bat and the bite might never be seen - the source of the infection is deduced by genetic tests on the virus after death. (OK, now it's MY turn not to have a source - I just remember reading this.)

I myself got rabies shots after waking up to the sound of my cat munching on a bat next to my bed. (What a sound to wake up to!) I was at my parents' in northern NH at the time and no one there would do anything about testing it. A couple days later when I got home to CT I talked to a doctor and they said yes, protocol in that case would have been to test the bat or, failing that, have the shots. The shots were seriously not a big deal - except that the hospital only held the serum at the emergency room, so instead of making an appointment I had to go stand in line 4 times for the followups, and of course the emergency room is way more expensive than a doctor's office, and my insurance screwed up and for 1/2 the visits covered me all but a few dollars, and for the other 1/2 (same thing, just one jab with the needle) charged me hundreds. I didn't dare call them about getting the expensive ones reduced for fear they would instead tell me the cheap visits were wrong and charge me at the expensive rate for all of them!

Anne
     
    05-04-2012, 11:49 PM
  #30
Weanling
Dang! Thanks for posting, I live about 2 hours away from Tulsa. Not quite central, but things in this state are always unpredictable!
     

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