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post #11 of 23 Old 05-10-2010, 10:07 PM
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1) Every horse owner has the best horse in the world and loves to brag about it.
2) An old cowboy saying... "Never brag about your dog or your horse because they'll both embarass you."

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post #12 of 23 Old 05-10-2010, 10:12 PM Thread Starter
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Does it really matter?
Obviously not to you, so why are you in this thread?

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Remember...

1) Every horse owner has the best horse in the world and loves to brag about it.
2) An old cowboy saying... "Never brag about your dog or your horse because they'll both embarass you."
Haha, I love it! I actually have to follow rule two. This weekend I said to my father "Come to the barn to see Gunther, he's a completely different horse" sure enough.. you know how it goes.


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1) Every horse owner has the best horse in the world and loves to brag about it.
2) An old cowboy saying... "Never brag about your dog or your horse because they'll both embarass you."
Oh number 2 is definately true!

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I don't give a jot about how well trained someone elses horse is, unless they are unhappy or it puts mine in danger.

What I do mind, though, is people calling disobedient, disrespectful horses well trained. it gives the more naive members of the horse world an incorrect view of a well trained horse, and effectively sets them up to accept medicority as the norm - After all, if a 'well trained' horse can't canter a 20m circle, what hope does their backyard pony have?
I know horses that have been undersaddle for 20 years and ridden religiously but still have days where they are disobedient and disrespectful. Not everyone in the horse world is out to be the best of the best. Some people are happy with mediocre horses.


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Remember...

1) Every horse owner has the best horse in the world and loves to brag about it.
2) An old cowboy saying... "Never brag about your dog or your horse because they'll both embarass you."
haha that cowboy saying is correct! haha ive seen more people get embarressed by their 'perfectly trained horse' then i can count. haha.

honestly, I dont really think it matters what they think, unless its putting me or my horse in danger. I consider my horse well trained for sure, but lets remember, well trained and perfectly trained are two different things, Rena is at second level, in the opinion of many (most) dressage riders, fully trained is grand prix, and for most of the trail riders i have met, well trained means you can put them on a trail and they will follow it, but most grand prix dressage horses couldnt ride on the trail if theyre life dpended on it. 'trained' is a VERY very wide range of things. personally, I expect to be able to do anything with my horse, ride the trail, maybe get up to at least prix st.george (crosses fingers!) some day

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haha that cowboy saying is correct! haha ive seen more people get embarressed by their 'perfectly trained horse' then i can count. haha.

honestly, I dont really think it matters what they think, unless its putting me or my horse in danger. I consider my horse well trained for sure, but lets remember, well trained and perfectly trained are two different things, Rena is at second level, in the opinion of many (most) dressage riders, fully trained is grand prix, and for most of the trail riders i have met, well trained means you can put them on a trail and they will follow it, but most grand prix dressage horses couldnt ride on the trail if theyre life dpended on it. 'trained' is a VERY very wide range of things. personally, I expect to be able to do anything with my horse, ride the trail, maybe get up to at least prix st.george (crosses fingers!) some day
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I know horses that have been undersaddle for 20 years and ridden religiously but still have days where they are disobedient and disrespectful. Not everyone in the horse world is out to be the best of the best. Some people are happy with mediocre horses.
That is one day though - I am talking about horses who can't be led from paddock to stall. Horses who won't stop. Horses who won't steer.

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Very true. I myself don't aim to be the best of the best. I aim to be the best I can be and my horse can be. I don't compete to win, but I do compete to compare myself and my horse to what is out there. I want my horses to be able to face just about any situation and deal with it calmly and sucessfully.

I guess I just don't understand how people can be happy with mediocre horses. It sure as heck doesn't make for a fun ride! It seems to me that those who are happy with mediocre horses are those who don't know how much better it can be.

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That is one day though - I am talking about horses who can't be led from paddock to stall. Horses who won't stop. Horses who won't steer.

Also, it takes a well trained rider to bring out the best in a horse, trained or not. If someone is singing off the rooftop about how well trained their horse is when it stopping or steering, sounds to me like they have no idea what they are on about in the first place.

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I think wether or not a horse is well trained or not depends as much on the training level of the rider as it does the horse. If I were to buy a great dressage horse, I would probably mess him up with my lack of knowledge and ability. What I have is what I consider to be a very good trail horse, but I bet a lot of you would think him an ill trained plug. He will go, move over out of the rode, and speed up with my legs and seat...he knows the verbal command whoa and easy (you know like when you are going through rough terrain that you want them to tiptoe through), he knows walk, running walk and canter (although that can be a bit flighty), he is road safe, he leads well and will come to me in the pasture. He may know more than that, but I wouldn't know it if he does, because I don't. So in my book, yes he is a well trained trail horse. He doesn't collect, or isn't always on the correct lead (at least I don't think he is...but I wouldn't really know ), he is nervous around men (even the farrier) and has had some general trust issues and I even had to send him to a trainer to learn to be mounted without panicking and standing still. He's not perfect, but he is a really good fit for me and what I want him to do.
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