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post #31 of 36 Old 05-17-2013, 08:47 PM
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It's a little annoying that she gets attacked for having her own plans and agenda when these horses are really none of her concern. She's trying to help and everyone here jumps on the bash band wagon as soon as she mentions breeding her own mare (which won't happen until later in the year anyway).
I know all of these people personally, outside of The Forum. She will do all of this work with the mini and then have it taken away when her cousins realize their daughter now has a cute pony for their kids to play with again. It isn't a good situation to be in, IMO.
I understand you are defending your friend, and that's commendable. But what has happened here for a long time now is that the OP posts bad things, and then says she has no control as it's her family.

That might well be the case, but if you can't keep your animals in a good place, then either don't have animals or move them. You don't get to throw your arms in the air and say there is nothing you can do and continue bad practices for years.

Heck I could pay $100 a month, instead of $500 a month for my ONE horse, and then claim there is nothing I can do to improve his conditions.

No, sorry, doesn't work like that.
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post #32 of 36 Old 05-17-2013, 08:57 PM
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Not sure about mini stallions, but my mini dachshund stud managed to breed a full-sized labradoodle last summer (she didn't take, thankfully, but we caught them in the act, she was lying down and very willing!)
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post #33 of 36 Old 05-18-2013, 12:07 AM
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Her horses have been moved for quite a while. And the mini CAN'T be moved, because the daughter will have a fit if she can't "see it" when she wasnts. So, that's why I say the mini isn't "hers". She's just being a big ole' bleeding heart and being had, AGAIN, by a family member.

You'd all have to know these people. They're an odd bunch and... they don't do things like we do. (Not Britt. She's odd too, but not that bad. Lol. ;) )
She may get angry at me for speaking for her, but oh well. At one time, she wasn't able to care for her horses like she should have. But she is working now and has money and is FINALLY capable. Breeding her mare, she has been planning that for quite some time and has money saved up enough to cover things. That is all put back. This mini deal just popped up, and I can totally understand why she isn't in a hurry to do anything with him. She's being played, whether or not she believes it.

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post #34 of 36 Old 05-18-2013, 12:49 PM
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Excuse my complete ignorance with horse procedures... But how much does it cost to geld the mini? $500-700?

If gelding isn't an option, I'm sure appropriate supplies and a handyman are considerably less expensive to buy/hire to make an appropriate enclosure for the mini. I know they can be determined, but it HAS to be affordable to pen him up properly... Even chainlink dog kennels with decent size are under $300 most places.

As pet owners, we must prepare for he possibilities of things going wrong, and this guy running with free access to mares, no matter how unlikely, has he potential for a seriously bad situation. Gelding would obviously be the best option, but if the OP can't or isn't willing to either geld OR return the mini to the cousins for them to deal with properly, there are less expensive "band aids" that work better than just worrying and talking and throwing hands up in the air.
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post #35 of 36 Old 05-18-2013, 01:42 PM
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It looks to me like britt got duped. The horse isn't really hers, and she already had plans on what to do with her money. She didn't ask to have this colt dumped on her, and she doesn't want to spend the money on her cousins horse that she is now having to pay for. Bad circumstances.

Britt, I'd jut tell them you don't want the horse, and let them deal with their own problems. It's hard to do, I know, but you can't save the rest of the worlds horses if you can't save your own. If their mares get bred, maybe it will open their eyes. It's sad that try have to learn it that way, but there's not much you can do about it. I wouldn't take it or put any money into it. It's sounds basically like they are letting you pay for their mess. Just my 2 cents. I hope you can pull yourself out of this sticky mess.
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Ok, just got home from work and read through all this.

I do wanna clarify a few things.

1. Yes, I knew the moment they 'gave' me the mini that he wasn't really 'mine'. When they said that I couldn't sell him, I knew... but I felt bad for him because he's in pretty bad shape. Because he's NOT mine I cannot and will not pay to have him gelded by myself. I'm not willing to spend that much on a horse that isn't mine. If my cousins would be willing to go half with me, I'd probably do it, but they are only willing to pay for small things like feed and hay and wormer.

2. I figured that if I were doing small things for the mini, such as worming him, grooming him, and keeping his hooves in good shape, it would help him out in the long rub, because otherwise, he'll go the rest of his life out here never being messed with, never being groomed, and never getting wormed or having his hooves trimmed. At least with me doing that basic care, he'll not suffer so much.

3. I am well aware of what my cousins are planning for me doing. I know they want me to 'train and tame' the mini, then they'll take him back for their kids. Honestly, I don't mind working with the mini for my cousins every now and then... but I'm not going to go out of my way and neglect my own horses care just to appease them. I'll get the mini halter-broke where he doesn't rear up and try to strike out when being led, and I'll try to get him calmer and less spooky around people, but as far as cart-training him like I think they want me to, no way. Not only do I not have time, but I wouldn't even know where to begin and I don't want to cart-train a horse... especially when I don't know how.

4. The mini has been in the big pasture (50 acres) with my great uncle David's two mares and my cousin Sherry's mare for several months now. We did not put him in there, he got out of the paddock my cousins had him in and got in the big pasture himself. They didn't care to put him back up in his paddock and just left him out. I managed to catch him twice and put take him back to his paddock, but they didn't care to fix it and he got out again. At that point, I was like, yall don't care, it takes forever to catch him, they're not my horses, it's not my problem. However, I did and still do feel bad about the condition of the mini (wormy, no hoof trimming, unhandled, etc...) so I agreed to take him when they "offered" thinking that he might get at least a little better care if I could afford some basic things for him (that don't cost a whole bunch, I already knew that he wasn't really "mine", and so because of that, I'm not willing to spend a lot of money on him, because he isn't mine).

5. My two horses, Gypsie and Dakota, aren't pastured in the big pasture that the mini is out in. I moved my horses almost a year ago to a much better pasture, albeit smaller (about 30 acres) because of some of my family members complaining about/threatening/messing with my gelding and making him completely disrespectful to me and others. I'm also in the process of building my own pasture behind the house just for my horses, but since where they are at now is big and nice (and there's no issues with people being upset and/or messing with them where they are at now), I'm not in any huge hurry to get my pasture built. But they ARE NOT in with the mini studs.

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