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post #11 of 27 Old 03-20-2013, 04:37 PM Thread Starter
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I never use the holes in the billet strap on the left side of the saddle, I don't even have holes in it.
That way you adjust the saddle however tight necessary and it is not tight or loose according to holes.
Saddles are not supposed to be as tight as possible.
I put my saddle on just a bit tighter than snug.

You might be talking about an English saddle though. Got to have holes on that one!
If you use an english girth with elastic on the near side, that helps from getting it too tight.
Yep, a General Purpose saddle. the girth doesnt have elastic on it though. It's an anti-gall girth though, so it's not just a leather stap, it's a leathery cushiony girth shaped for maximum comfort. He works great with it, no discomfort when being ridden. The knee buckling has only happened once, when I did it too fast.


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post #12 of 27 Old 03-20-2013, 04:39 PM
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Okay I was talking about western.

English girths are easy, especially if they have rollers on them.

Try standing on a block to girth up.
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post #13 of 27 Old 03-20-2013, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
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A BLOCK!!! Yes!! I will definitely try that!!! thank you for that idea!!


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Yep, a General Purpose saddle. the girth doesnt have elastic on it though. It's an anti-gall girth though, so it's not just a leather stap, it's a leathery cushiony girth shaped for maximum comfort. He works great with it, no discomfort when being ridden. The knee buckling has only happened once, when I did it too fast.
Try skipping the holes and just tying a regular western girth "knot"
I make the knot up completely on the near side, then tighten the girth, then tighten the knot.

Another thing, you can exert a lot of pressure if you tighten the girth with the billet going down to the girth, up to the saddle, down to the girth and up to the saddle again, you can triple your tightening power, and get it too tight very easy.

When I learned how to put on a western saddle, there were no such things as holes in the billets, I think it is generally a new thing.

Ha here I am thinking a general purpose saddle is a western saddle, like a trail saddle or something.
So you have an all purpose English saddle, those are not as easy to get too tight, can be done though.

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Yep, an English GP saddle. My mistake


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post #16 of 27 Old 03-20-2013, 06:11 PM
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It sounds like you are tightening the girth to fast and to soon.

When you first put the saddle on you should just have it loosely done up, just snug enough it wont slip around. Then when you get to the arena or wherever you are mounting you tighten it a bit more, walk to the mounting block and finish tightening it.

Horses will not bloat if you are slow with the girth. Tightening it up as tight as you can in the barn will lead to a horse bloating and becoming "cinchy". So I suspect the bloating then his knees giving out when you go to tighten it more mean you are going at it way to fast.

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Oh..okay! I will definitely take it slower next time!
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I worked at a barn and there was briefly a big chunky quarter horse there who was a really sweet, sensitive guy but had been really "cowboy'd" on, so he was always a bit scared of people at first. When you would tighten his girth, he'd sort of fall over backwards. He wasn't rearing up or pulling back, just sort of sitting down, like his hind end would stop working. The first time he did it I almost freaked out, and it just became a process of very slowly and gradually tightening the girth. Each time, he'd "sit down," and I think he eventually went to a home as a pasture pet, but it was always interesting.

You may want to ask a vet about it, just to be safe, but I think gradually tightening it and just taking your time can do wonders. Walking around a bit can help, too, in between tightenings.

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post #19 of 27 Old 03-21-2013, 03:05 AM Thread Starter
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I did it nice and slow today and it worked! I experimented a bit by pulling it a tiny bit tighter after the riding session and sure enough, his legs started buckling! Great! Problem solved. Mudpie: that brings a strange picture to my head... that is quite strange...but at least there wasn't anything wring with him, was there?


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post #20 of 27 Old 03-21-2013, 03:42 AM
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You experienced a perfectly common vagus nerve reflex. The vagus runs under the cinch/girth area and can receive pressure or pinching from a tightened girth. Frequently people will experience the "buckling" reaction if they tighten the girth and ask the horse to pick up his front feet for cleaning, or some other manipulation like that. To avoid having this happen, after cinching up, gently gently gently lift and pull each front leg forward and up to stretch out/pull loose the skin underneath the girth. And, of course, never over-cinch. :) Problem solved!

ETA... Some horses are super sensitive to this reaction in the girth area even if you do take precautions! Yours just might be one of them. No biggie! :)

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