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post #21 of 27 Old 03-21-2013, 03:45 AM
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PS I have experienced a vagal reflex as a human... NOT fun! I went weak & blurry and almost passed out. :P
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post #22 of 27 Old 03-21-2013, 03:46 PM Thread Starter
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You experienced a perfectly common vagus nerve reflex. The vagus runs under the cinch/girth area and can receive pressure or pinching from a tightened girth. Frequently people will experience the "buckling" reaction if they tighten the girth and ask the horse to pick up his front feet for cleaning, or some other manipulation like that. To avoid having this happen, after cinching up, gently gently gently lift and pull each front leg forward and up to stretch out/pull loose the skin underneath the girth. And, of course, never over-cinch. :) Problem solved!

ETA... Some horses are super sensitive to this reaction in the girth area even if you do take precautions! Yours just might be one of them. No biggie! :)
Ha! I do that! I pull his front legs forward after putting the girth on! And I noticed I didn't do it on the day he buckled his knees! Oops! I guess I should do it every time! Luca actually loves doing that
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I've trained him to do that easily because of the farrier, when he lifts the legs forwards to rasp them. He does it so easily now.


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post #23 of 27 Old 03-21-2013, 03:50 PM Thread Starter
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PS I have experienced a vagal reflex as a human... NOT fun! I went weak & blurry and almost passed out. :P
Oh..wow! How did that happen??


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post #24 of 27 Old 03-21-2013, 05:41 PM
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Haha, well, in humans lots of things can trigger a vasovagal reflex, such as stress, trauma, having a medical procedure that really freaks you out... I have a terrible needle phobia. Last time I had my shots at the doctor's (sometime in college), I was doing fine, the nurse withdrew the needle, I stood up... aaaaand sat right back down and almost passed out. It wasn't fun! At least I got free animal crackers and OJ. My mom,who is also a nurse (yeah, my mommy was with me, what of it?!) laughed at me and told me what it was.
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post #25 of 27 Old 03-21-2013, 05:55 PM
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this nerve location that the cinch/girth presses on, can it be avoided by repositioning the girth buckle higher or lower? By changing the length of the girth, you can change the heighth of the buckling position. And, of course, a person can change the horizontal position somewhat by moving the girthe further forward or backward.
I wonder if some adjustment there might be helpful.

I really don't know anything about this nerve, so am asking for opinions from those who do know.
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post #26 of 27 Old 03-23-2013, 06:34 PM
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If your saddle is slipping? The saddle does NOT fit.

And you may also be an unsteady rider but main thing is the saddle does not fit.

And if he has learned to blow up after being saddled only 7 times, you are doing him damage and he is trying to protect himself.

This is really sad for the horse.

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post #27 of 27 Old 03-24-2013, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
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He has been girthed before when he was younger and I didn't have him. The saddle does fit, and it doesn't slip, it just moves slightly if it isn't tight enough. And if you know what I mean, it's really distracting when I try to practise the rising trot and the saddle is unsteady. As I have said, the leg buckling happened because I pulled it up too tight. I stand on a mounting block now so I can pull it up slower and it's working.
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