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post #31 of 46 Old 05-02-2013, 04:16 AM
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SB is Standardbred. A lot of people don't like them, but not me!

It definitely doesn't hurt to call, even if you aren't sure. You never know, your father may be swayed toward another horse purely because it's cheaper, perhaps.
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post #32 of 46 Old 05-02-2013, 04:21 AM Thread Starter
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SB is Standardbred. A lot of people don't like them, but not me!

It definitely doesn't hurt to call, even if you aren't sure. You never know, your father may be swayed toward another horse purely because it's cheaper, perhaps.
ahah yes my dad would be !, I keep researching if Standardbreds and arabs are good doers and google says they are good doers but ill need to ring up.

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post #33 of 46 Old 05-02-2013, 04:25 AM
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Ok im going to ring up about all of them. I need to be organised to see other horses to.
My two pennys worth.

The horse that won't shy, pigroot, buck, rear, bite, kick or has not avoided being caught at times, has not been born yet. They are all the things horse can do and will if presented with the right circumstances. And they will also take the bit and bolt.

So are its feet good that's a must. No hoof no horse.
Worming, I only worm an animal if there are signs of worms. Worms can and do develop defences to worming preperations and then they become inefective.
6 year old gelding green broke, go and see the horse in the paddock stay near a gate and see if he will come on up to you. Believe it or not they are inquisitive. Don't feed it it has to want to be with you. See if it will follow you. Don't feed it to get it to come up. Catching issues can be over come. When you catch it put it in a small paddock where it can not run to far. Tie it up in the shade for a few hours at a time teach it patience.

Milage is what it required to get it going and consistancy.

You described the horse as having no mallace that's a good start. It will try and be the boss its what they do you have to fix that with kindness and persistance it can take quite some time for a horse to develope confidence in its owner and I mean some times 18 months can go by.

They generally are like children at first when in a new place they can miss behave or be big angels and as they relax to the new area and get to know you they will gain confidence and then the fun begins. It takes kids about two weeks for this.

Have someone experienced ride the horse not the owner to get an opinion and remember 6 year old will require 2 more years of experience and the light will get turned on at around 8 and if you have trained it right you may have a great horse.

$1500 in Australia or NZ for a green broke galding not really over priced but at the top end of the price range. A green mare yes, over priced.

A clude TB cross green broke mare 3 year old can set you back $2500 or more where I come from.

Good luck, but in my opinion if the horse has no mallace, no psychological problems like, its nuts, its trainable nothing wrong with a strong moungrel if its treking you do its calmness you are looking for. Now that was a big pennys worth.

An after thought make sure the bit fits the horse and the saddle. Not a good look to try and assess the horse if its having pain from its mouth or back. Now I'm gone.
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post #34 of 46 Old 05-02-2013, 07:56 AM Thread Starter
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Hey guys well I got pictures of the QH feet and they didn't look that good. In the end I rang up about this horse.

So ill be visiting this horse in Ballarat instead..

QH cross Arabian:
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-Only Issue is im going to need to ring up the owner of the arab cross, and tell her to not lunge or catch the horse before I be around it and ride it, as she told me she lunges the horse before riding it if he is fresh or not been in work.-

I talked to this lady on the phone for a good amount of time and go to ask nearly all these questions but I did not ask the questions that were not applicable to the horse.

My Procedure/s to Buying and checking a Horse

Questions:
Can I have vet check ?
If mare How does she act in season ?
Can the horse be breed registered ?
Has the horse ever had the vet out ?
Has the horse been floated ?
Has the horse had all vaccines ?
Is the horse a good doer ? (can the horse thrive on paddock diet/hay)
Is the horse barefoot or has shoes ?
Has the horse ever bred ?
If male does the gelding act like a stallion ?
What discipline and experience does the horse have under saddle ?
How is the horse on the ground ? Has the horse done much groundwork ?
Has the horse done Natural Horsemaship ?
Has the horse ever coliced ?
Is the horse good with fencing ?
Can the horse be paddock with other horses ? In a communal ?
Can the horse be ridden with other horses ?
Does the horse have any vices ? Windsucking, pawing, head swinging, paddock walking, wood chewing
Has the horse got separation anxiety ?
What is the horse being fed ?
Can the horse float well ?
Can the horse be rugged ? Is the horse rugged ?
Is the horse well behaved with the farrier ?
Can the horse be Floated ?
Can the horse have its teeth done ?
Is the horse good to catch ?
Is the horse good to tie and lead up ?
Does the horse (ever) Buck, Pigroot,bolt,roll to get rider of, throw head up, rear, spin or any dangerous behavior ?
Does the horse get lame allot ? Sore or stiff ?
Is the horse touchy any where ?
Who did you buy the horse from ?
Was the horse neglected or a rescue ?
Is the horse good on trail rides ?
Is the horse good on roads ?
Is the horse good with cars ?
Has the horse been to the beach?
Is the horse allergic to anything ? If so what ?
Are the hooves prone to cracking ? Do the hooves chip of ? (any special care ?)
Has the horse been wormed ? Ask when last wormed
Age ?

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The wise reject what they think, not what they see.
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post #35 of 46 Old 05-02-2013, 07:58 AM Thread Starter
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Since I was bored and love window shopping, I decided to have a look around for you for other horses to check out if this one doesn't suit you xD

No idea if any of these match what you want though. But maybe show them to your father and say 'Hmm, maybe we should look at this one if the gelding doesn't work out'. Show him the other options so he knows you're going in with an open mind.
Grey Part Arabian Gelding - Nice and chunky.
Grey SB Mare - If I had the money, this mare would be mine RIGHT NOW. She's young, so you'd be able to make her into what you wanted.
Stock Horse Mare - Could be a prospect if you want something a bit more challenging.

I have to say though, cheap Victorian horses seem a lot more difficult to come across than cheap New South Walers!
Wouldn't it be funy if this horse was alright for me to ride and passes the vet check and blood tests and after I do the trial I buy it ! That would be funny I would make a thread about how I bought this horse that you gave me the link to and I would say how it is going !

The foolish reject what they see, not what they think,
The wise reject what they think, not what they see.
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post #36 of 46 Old 05-03-2013, 12:29 AM
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Hey guys well I got pictures of the QH feet and they didn't look that good. In the end I rang up about this horse.

So ill be visiting this horse in Ballarat instead..

QH cross Arabian:
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-Only Issue is im going to need to ring up the owner of the arab cross, and tell her to not lunge or catch the horse before I be around it and ride it, as she told me she lunges the horse before riding it if he is fresh or not been in work.-

I talked to this lady on the phone for a good amount of time and go to ask nearly all these questions but I did not ask the questions that were not applicable to the horse.

My Procedure/s to Buying and checking a Horse

Questions:
Can I have vet check ?
If mare How does she act in season ?
Can the horse be breed registered ?
Has the horse ever had the vet out ?
Has the horse been floated ?
Has the horse had all vaccines ?
Is the horse a good doer ? (can the horse thrive on paddock diet/hay)
Is the horse barefoot or has shoes ?
Has the horse ever bred ?
If male does the gelding act like a stallion ?
What discipline and experience does the horse have under saddle ?
How is the horse on the ground ? Has the horse done much groundwork ?
Has the horse done Natural Horsemaship ?
Has the horse ever coliced ?
Is the horse good with fencing ?
Can the horse be paddock with other horses ? In a communal ?
Can the horse be ridden with other horses ?
Does the horse have any vices ? Windsucking, pawing, head swinging, paddock walking, wood chewing
Has the horse got separation anxiety ?
What is the horse being fed ?
Can the horse float well ?
Can the horse be rugged ? Is the horse rugged ?
Is the horse well behaved with the farrier ?
Can the horse be Floated ?
Can the horse have its teeth done ?
Is the horse good to catch ?
Is the horse good to tie and lead up ?
Does the horse (ever) Buck, Pigroot,bolt,roll to get rider of, throw head up, rear, spin or any dangerous behavior ?
Does the horse get lame allot ? Sore or stiff ?
Is the horse touchy any where ?
Who did you buy the horse from ?
Was the horse neglected or a rescue ?
Is the horse good on trail rides ?
Is the horse good on roads ?
Is the horse good with cars ?
Has the horse been to the beach?
Is the horse allergic to anything ? If so what ?
Are the hooves prone to cracking ? Do the hooves chip of ? (any special care ?)
Has the horse been wormed ? Ask when last wormed
Age ?

What a mouthfull and repeated. I have two horses, and if for sale and you came to me with that list I would have this to say. The horse you want has not been born yet. I would also say horse have been around for millions of years we not so long. Who do you think is better adapted. Sorry but your list can be sorted in a few minutes on a visit. Take your horse float and load the horse. Check its hooves while loading and a split may not mean it has a hoof problem it may mean the inviroment is taking a tole, it may lack minerials. My gelding had a stone bruse and it came out at the top of the hoof. Took 6 months to grow out but I still brought the horse.

Now you have taken it around the block and are unloading it its emotions will be showing so you will be able to get an idea on its temprement. Bit and saddle the horse get on, go for a ride, that sorts that one. Worming do you like it well I have never had a horse that likes worm past. And how do you feel about having injections, I don't like them and nor do my horses. I think that just about covers it, Oh, covers some times they have to be taught to accept things. Good luck with your hunting for a horse but you might want to narow your requirements a little to what is important. Like does the horse want to be with you.

When you dismount ask the horse to lift a front leg and then the other and of course a hind leg Now when you put it down thank the horse. And I never have to run my horse around to take off some of ist zest for life I have trained it to be ready from the paddock, saddle on and riding. Its training.

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post #37 of 46 Old 05-03-2013, 12:39 AM Thread Starter
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all those questions are not my requirements they are just questions and I didn't ask all of them because I know that they are annoying, I just had to put them in there because I couldn't be bothered to sort them out and only show the ones I asked.

I have saved up 900$ for dentist,vaccinations and worming because you need to keep those things up on a horse if you have insurance. I wont be able to afford large vet bills all the time.
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post #38 of 46 Old 05-03-2013, 01:50 AM
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all those questions are not my requirements they are just questions and I didn't ask all of them because I know that they are annoying, I just had to put them in there because I couldn't be bothered to sort them out and only show the ones I asked.

I have saved up 900$ for dentist,vaccinations and worming because you need to keep those things up on a horse if you have insurance. I wont be able to afford large vet bills all the time.
Worming can be over done, so the cost can be reduced. If you get the horse used to garlic and feed it a couple of times a week that is a natural wormer. It also after time has the effect of keeping some of the insects off. Vaccinations guess I am lucky and live in a country that has very little need. Dentist once a year is all I do. With my 9 year old not having a dentist for the past two years. No need. It is good you are taking a responsible attitude towards horse ownership.
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post #39 of 46 Old 05-03-2013, 03:40 AM Thread Starter
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Worming can be over done, so the cost can be reduced. If you get the horse used to garlic and feed it a couple of times a week that is a natural wormer. It also after time has the effect of keeping some of the insects off. Vaccinations guess I am lucky and live in a country that has very little need. Dentist once a year is all I do. With my 9 year old not having a dentist for the past two years. No need. It is good you are taking a responsible attitude towards horse ownership.
I think at my agistment its compulsory to do worming and on the right time, but ill try and get the cheapest most less harmful wormers as I believe in the natural medicines but shame can't do that stuff. But I worked it out and ill have minimum 400 $ left over for Vet bills but id like to have 500 $ so is it horse abuse to not rug a horse ? Because I don't want to rug a hors if it doesn't need rugs the arab im hopefully looking at 2 morrow has not had rugs and is a good doer so he has kept his weight.

I will be fighting with people about rugs im pretty sure !

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The wise reject what they think, not what they see.
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post #40 of 46 Old 05-03-2013, 03:59 AM
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I think at my agistment its compulsory to do worming and on the right time, but ill try and get the cheapest most less harmful wormers as I believe in the natural medicines but shame can't do that stuff. But I worked it out and ill have minimum 400 $ left over for Vet bills but id like to have 500 $ so is it horse abuse to not rug a horse ? Because I don't want to rug a hors if it doesn't need rugs the arab im hopefully looking at 2 morrow has not had rugs and is a good doer so he has kept his weight.

I will be fighting with people about rugs im pretty sure !
Wormers use different brands and combinations so the worms don't get immuned
If you live in a cold climate (snow) you may have to cover the horse
I don't cover mine generally but dependant on condition. My gelding does not seem to hold his condition but QH are known for that.

We have wild horse in our central North Island where it snows. And the only rug they have is the one they grow. But they can shelter in the forrests.

Good luck and see if the horse choses you, get friendly then after a time walk around and see if it follows. Its a great feeling when the horse acts like a dog and follows.
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