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        07-15-2012, 04:16 PM
      #11
    Foal
    For me personally, most people in general just piss me off. They are irritating, whinging, annoying pests that I won't be arsed with. The one person that I would consider a friend outside of my husband and kids, understands this about me and accepts it.

    For me, I'd rather hang with a critter of some sort than go clubbing, to the mall, or other things like that. If my friend does come over, we ride. It's good that she is into horses as well, she was also my youngest DD's trainer for awhile.

    I am fully aware that I am a misanthrope and I have my reasons to be. I don't want to waste time nattering about clothes, who's doing who, who got drunk last weekend, etc. However, I would help a person if they needed it as long as they left me the hell alone afterwards.
         
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        07-15-2012, 04:17 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    My horses will always be there my friends will come and go. They will be there when I need them and my QH has been there for 5 years and I have had friends come and go in the 5 years but he's always stayed... not that he had much choice but when he got out a few times he would stay home or come back home, and always be there. Not many friends are. But I have found a few good people out there but my mom always says if there were no people left in the world as long as I had my animals I wouldnt care... I don't think I would notice if my animals were there.. :)
         
        07-15-2012, 05:32 PM
      #13
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DancingArabian    
    Disclaimer: I'm using "you" in general terms and not directing at any specific person.

    In the bigger picture, maybe. When you're considering big things like food and rent perhaps. But is the "friend" who steals your stuff or breaks your things or makes you feel bad about yourself better than the horse? What about the "loved one" who's abusive? What about a random person on the street that murders people. Are those people really more important than the horse who nickers hello and sniffles your pocket for snacks? In my eyes it's the ones who put trash over animals just because the trash is a person who is skewed.

    My animals are my loved ones. I wouldn't put my loved ones over an outsider or over someone roses loved ones.
    A "friend" in quotes, or a "loved one" in quotes, or a murderer are hardly what I was referring to.

    As I said, I love animals and always have - it would be hard for me to believe anyone can love them more than I, but nonetheless a person who places animals above people has misplaced priorities, and quite frankly has a pyschological/social problem - as you should very well know. Family and friends (without the quotes) should always be a person's highest priority. A person that shuns people in favor of animals is not evil or deranged, but they have a social issue.

    With that being said, I realize that the term "friend" today does not necessarily mean the same as it meant many years ago. Today, "friends" tend to be acquaintances...because people have become more self centered than they used to be, close lifelong friendships are becoming more and more rare. People discard acquaintances without thinking twice...you don't discard a true friend, and you certainly don't, or at least shouldn't, consider an animal ahead of them - or your family...
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        07-15-2012, 05:50 PM
      #14
    QOS
    Green Broke
    I adore animals - horses in particular. My brother and sisters weren't horse enthusiasts and neither were my cousins. I had a group of friends I rode with as a teenager. Now, I have friends and a cousin and my hubby that I ride with. I also have a group of friends of mine that I cake decorate with. My BFF thinks horses are great - as long as you don't expect her to get on one!

    My horse is my exercise, my therapy, part of my social calender....he is very important to me but so are my relationships with my kids, DIL, grandkids, sisters, nieces, nephews, my cousins and of course, my hubby. I am not giving up my horses for anyone - short of a major illness that needed MY total involvement - but I am not going to drop my family for my horses either. It is a happy balance for me. Horses enrich my life - they are not the total center of it. Most of my socializing though, at this time, revolves around my horses and my friends/family that is involved with them. I don't go to as many cake conventions/classes because of the cost - I'd rather spend it on my horses. All in all, it is a good life and balance between my 2 legged and 4 legged family/friends!
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        07-15-2012, 05:52 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    My lifestyle has made it pretty much impossible to keep real friends. And the people who I thought were my friends, from childhood, hurt and betrayed me. My best gal pal, who I had been friends with since we were toddlers, kept trying to force drugs, alcohol, and random flings with guys at me. My best guy friend, also from a young age, sexually assaulted me a few years ago.

    Bottom line is I don't trust people. With the above incidents (and many more, I assure you), what reason do I have to trust humans? Horses have never intentionally hurt me. Sure, horses are "just animals" and are unpredictable...but people are unpredictable too. I don't have blind trust in these animals, but I trust them a hell of a lot more than any person has given me reason to trust them.

    I only trust a handful of people. These few people who are very close and dear to me. Family and one friend so close they could be family. I honestly can't say what I would choose in a situation where both my family and my horse were in danger. Seriously though, the odds for that kind of situation cropping up are slim to none, so the argument of "would you save your human friend over your horse" is invalid.
         
        07-15-2012, 06:02 PM
      #16
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Silent one    
    Actually, when I divorced John, it really came about because of the horses. He decided we were done with that phase of our life and the horses needed to go. He never understood it was not a "phase" of my life, it was my life!
    When I bought my first horse I discovered a love for something that came very natural to me. Just being with horses and learning about them, even doing the dirty work like shoveling poo and scrubbing wounds. Things I had never done before but made me feel like that's where I belong.
    My husband has never 100% supported my owning horses, but has allowed me to have them anyway. That's not to say it is not a common discussion of how our money should be spent or saved for more important things. I let him know right off the bat that I love him more than anything and would do anything for him, BUT if he asked me to get rid of my horses, he would be living with a very angry, resentful person for quite some time.
         
        07-15-2012, 06:29 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    To me, it is not a question of horses being more or less important than people in such a black and white sense, but there is the fact that any person who tries to force me to choose between them and my horse obviously does not have the respect for me and my passions to earn the place in my heart that would put them above my horses.

    My family, without question, would rank higher than my horses in a lot of aspects. But it is a fact that I CHOSE to become responsible for another life in this world. Even if it is not a human life, it has value and I have a duty to honor the responsibility I took on of my own free will.

    If it came down to saving my friend's life or saving my horses life and I was the only one who could make that sacrifice, I would save my friend. It would hurt, but a human life simply has to hold more value in some ways. On the other hand, if my friend wanted me to sacrifice my horses care, time or health for a frivolous reason, that is not a friend and as an acquaintance, my horse holds a higher value for me.
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        07-15-2012, 06:55 PM
      #18
    Trained
    Two most important things in my life - my family & my horses (animals/pets), rest is just gravy.
         
        07-15-2012, 07:01 PM
      #19
    Trained
    My horses are not more important to me than my family or friends; however, anybody that loves me would never want to take my horses away from me. If I were married to someone that randomly wanted to make me give up my horses, I would assume that he didn't love me. Fortunately, my husband is very supportive of my love for horses. He is my main riding partner. I work and provide for my horses financially so that they are not a burden to him.
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        07-15-2012, 07:39 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Faceman    
    As I said, I love animals and always have - it would be hard for me to believe anyone can love them more than I, but nonetheless a person who places animals above people has misplaced priorities, and quite frankly has a pyschological/social problem - as you should very well know. Family and friends (without the quotes) should always be a person's highest priority. A person that shuns people in favor of animals is not evil or deranged, but they have a social issue.
    Well, I never said I was normal........
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