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    07-16-2012, 06:11 AM
  #31
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Faceman    
As I said, I love animals and always have - it would be hard for me to believe anyone can love them more than I, but nonetheless a person who places animals above people has misplaced priorities, and quite frankly has a pyschological/social problem - as you should very well know. Family and friends (without the quotes) should always be a person's highest priority. A person that shuns people in favor of animals is not evil or deranged, but they have a social issue.
But its probably people who have caused these "pyschological/social problems" Just my 2 cents, but I have come to see that people can be mean and spiteful without thinking, and cause a lot of emotional pain. Every day in life people let us down, hurt us, toss aside our feelings for mundane things. Even my life long bestie has hurt me, I still love her, but that doesn't mean she didn't cause me a lot of upset at some point in our lives. Another of my friend's Dad is an abusive b*st*rd and has left my friend with PTSD and clinical depression. Her own Dad! Horses do not do this to people. Period.

People act without thinking, hurt without cause, lash out and lose control. Anyone can. Even those who love you. I'm not saying all humans should die at the expense of a horse, but I totally understand why some people value their horse's lives as equall to, or even above, humans.
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    07-16-2012, 09:40 AM
  #32
Yearling
My family is and will always be my first priority, but my horses (and dogs) are very important as well. Those that I live with (hubby and kids) understand what the animals do for my well being and know how important they are, but my friends and extended family don't get it at all.

I read somewhere that it is unwise to ask a horse lover to choose between her spouse or friends and the horse because you might not like the answer. I admit there are times, although not always, when this rings true and I would much rather spend time with my horses.
     
    07-16-2012, 09:47 AM
  #33
Showing
I love my animals and my life wouldn't be as happy without them, but I will always put my family and loved ones before them.

I'm a loner by nature, but I definitely enjoy the company of my own kind, especially those with whom I share a familial or friendship bond. If someone said, 'We kill the horse or this person' the horse would have to die, as much as it would devastate me.

Sure, people can be mean and mistreat you, but what does that have to do with those for whom we have a strong bond of affection? Nobody's perfect, and the next time you unintentionally hurt someone or mistreat another person just because you're in a bad mood, remember that.

Animals can and do help heal psychological scars, but they should never be used as a substitute for human companionship.
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    07-16-2012, 12:56 PM
  #34
Trained
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
I love my animals and my life wouldn't be as happy without them, but I will always put my family and loved ones before them...Animals can and do help heal psychological scars, but they should never be used as a substitute for human companionship.
I very strongly agree.

On my last security clearance interview, I shocked the interviewer when I pointed out that I knew the names of the dogs that lived on my street, but not the people. But then, in truth, a lot of the folks who live near me are jerks that I want to avoid. I'm a borderline recluse who enjoys dogs more than most people.

However, dogs are dogs and horses are horses. Would I spend $50K to save my daughter's life? Absolutely! Would I spend it on my mare Mia? Nope. And if Mia could think like a human, she'd agree. She's glad I provide her with food & water, but if she had to choose between my life and the life of a fellow horse, she'd choose the horse. She just isn't that into me.

I'm sorry to hear that so many folks have had bad experiences with other people. Yes, there are a lot of bad people. However, just because I don't eat bad apples doesn't mean I pass on good ones. Watching my wife deal with my 85 year old mother left me no doubt but that I had married a good one. There are some wonderful people out there, and a horse is not a substitute.
One man in a thousand, Solomon says,
Will stick more close than a brother.
And it's worth while seeking him half your days
If you find him before the other.
Nine nundred and ninety-nine depend
On what the world sees in you,
But the Thousandth man will stand your friend
With the whole round world agin you.
Thousandth Man by Rudyard Kipling
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    07-16-2012, 02:25 PM
  #35
Yearling
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Animals can and do help heal psychological scars, but they should never be used as a substitute for human companionship.
I sort of disagree. If someone has had trouble with people in the past, animals can really help heal them. I do think that people definitely should also have human companionship, but there's something about the non judgemental company of animals that I find humans have trouble beating.

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One man in a thousand, Solomon says,
Will stick more close than a brother.
And it's worth while seeking him half your days
If you find him before the other.
Nine nundred and ninety-nine depend
On what the world sees in you,
But the Thousandth man will stand your friend
With the whole round world agin you.
It's great if you have a person like this. However, someone might not find someone like that in their life, or even at least something close.

If you have a lot of trust issues, it's not easy just brushing yourself off and being with good people. When you've interacted with too many bad people, you start to close yourself off from the good ones, too.

If you eat a bad apple and get sick, and then do it several times, you're probably going to want to stay away from apples almost entirely.
     
    07-16-2012, 04:48 PM
  #36
Foal
Hi,

My horse is my best friend. I have human best friends, but hanging out with my horse is definitely a priority in my life. Before everything comes also my Lord/Savior Jesus Christ, as you said... I wouldn't ever let anything get in the way of that. My horse is like my family. I totally understand where you are coming from.
     
    07-16-2012, 07:34 PM
  #37
Started
People who choose animals over people aren't the ones with the problem. It's the human beings who made them that way.
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    07-16-2012, 11:13 PM
  #38
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Faceman    
A "friend" in quotes, or a "loved one" in quotes, or a murderer are hardly what I was referring to.

As I said, I love animals and always have - it would be hard for me to believe anyone can love them more than I, but nonetheless a person who places animals above people has misplaced priorities, and quite frankly has a pyschological/social problem - as you should very well know. Family and friends (without the quotes) should always be a person's highest priority. A person that shuns people in favor of animals is not evil or deranged, but they have a social issue.

With that being said, I realize that the term "friend" today does not necessarily mean the same as it meant many years ago. Today, "friends" tend to be acquaintances...because people have become more self centered than they used to be, close lifelong friendships are becoming more and more rare. People discard acquaintances without thinking twice...you don't discard a true friend, and you certainly don't, or at least shouldn't, consider an animal ahead of them - or your family...
I put the words in quotes because I was using the terms loosely. Sometimes a person someone considers a friend is really a jerk. Sometimes a loved one cross a line. However, they are still people, and you said people should always come first. Or did you mean people that matter to you?
     
    07-16-2012, 11:25 PM
  #39
Yearling
This is a really deep discussion.

One thing I've noticed that most folks here are agreement with, is that horses are healers. It is hard to find someone whose life hasn't been touched in some way.........
     

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