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        03-19-2013, 01:39 AM
      #51
    Green Broke
    People who can't afford proper care for their multiple horses but refuse to sell any of them.

    People who "don't believe" in floating a horse's teeth "unless there's a problem," and then complain about issues that are symptoms of needing to have the teeth floated!

    And then there are a couple of people at my barn who have horses but never come out to see them. My barn has pretty limited turnout; if you're going to let your horse be a pasture puff with plenty of turnout and socialization, that's fine, but cooped up in a stall all day? That's just not fair. One of them is fairly aggressive, and I don't blame him- he's young(ish) and VERY smart from what I've been told, but spends 20+ hours a day in his stall and is only handled by the staff taking him to and from turnout. No one grooms him or picks out his feet or anything
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        03-19-2013, 01:42 AM
      #52
    Green Broke
    I too think it's sad when horses are passed around a lot. Not that people don't have the right to sell them. Just that it saddens me to think they get passed around a lot. Like my Fox Trotter mare for instance. She's had 10 babies and about 5 homes. I hope to be her last. She is a wonderful horse. It makes me wonder why no one else kept her. It's like they popped babies out of her and moved her on.

    Lack of owner loyalty grinds my gears. I hate to see a horse give their best years to someone and then the owner lists it on Craigslist when it's in it's 20's. It's like they use the horse up and throw it out. I find that sad.

    Starving horses (or rather their owners) grind my gears. Why not give the horse away before you starve it to death?
         
        03-19-2013, 01:43 AM
      #53
    Trained
    Horseychick we found something that we both agree on. LOL. Proper headstalls and no baggy pants. Shalom
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        03-19-2013, 01:48 AM
      #54
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    People who have threads on this very board that go on for pages and pages and pages all about how their saddles don't fit, their horse needs a trainer and so on and so forth and all they do is dismiss everyone else as being clueless when it's quite obvious that it's they are in fact the clueless ones and then go on to start a thread to bash other people on their horsemanship (or lack of it).

    Hi pot, meet kettle!
         
        03-19-2013, 06:57 AM
      #55
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    They stopped lying to me about my growing old.




    People who will not give up a horse that is dying of starvation because they have had them since they were 8. Forces you to call authorities to make them take action.
         
        03-19-2013, 07:02 AM
      #56
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by dbarabians    
    Horses are livestock. They are not pets and are not as loyal as a dog.
    Well put, you've hit my major gear grinder-Anthropomorphism. Horses are not THE BLACK STALLION or MISTY or THE RED PONY, they are large animals that should of course be treated humanely but are not "human". Those that so forcefully advocate the "horses are peoples" POV should really not be riding them-it's a total moral disconnect seems to evade their comprehension.

    After all, as a society we don't condone it if someone rides another human being . I get it that some people think horses are pet rather than livestock. But I just don't get the anthropomorphic POV when it's coupled with the "I ride mai poneh 'cause I wuvs him and he wuvs me FOREVAH" POV.
         
        03-19-2013, 07:39 AM
      #57
    Yearling
    I wuvs mai ponie! But its because she's everything I need her to be. Brave on a trail, eager to a fence and quick to a barrel. She's level headed, intelligent and sound. She'll pony a draft and tolerate a full jousting costume. That's why this is her forever home. Rocky, who is an ottb will be here ninety days, then move on to make some jumper very happy. I do not need a jumper, and he will not suffer. Examples of how I feel. What grinds my gears is riders who are constantly yanking their horses mouth. Give it a rest, he has teeth!
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        03-19-2013, 08:47 AM
      #58
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    Originally Posted by Horseychick94    
    Horses are living breathing thinking and feeling animals. Of COURSE they care. The difference is, training a horse and bettering it and making it more suitable so someone will be more apt to KEEP it instead of just buying a horse to play around with for nothing but your own selfish gain and then throwing it away when you get bored. Not fair to the horse. But people like you who think horses are mere livestock and that they have no feelings and that the only thing keeping them satisfied is food shouldn't HAVE horses.
    Cows have feelings. So do cockroaches for that matter. All beings are capable of feelings. Well, not so sure about some humans, now that I think about it.

    Some horses are more in tune with their humans. Others are not, in fact I would say that most ARE satisfied with being fed, and couldn't care less about being ridden, or even eyeballed, as long as the feed is coming regularly.

    Telling someone they shouldn't have horses because they view them as livestock? Please.

    Like it or not, horses are expensive. For someone that can only afford one horse, if they are wanting to trail ride and their horse has gotten too old, is lame, or is unsuitable? Are they to keep that horse for 20 or more years then? Never be able to go riding because they can't afford to keep another one they can use? The market for lame horses is pretty slim. Same with one that is actively trying to kill you.

    While my two older horses and the new one will have a home with me for life, that is MY decision. I actually made it 10 years ago or more in the case of Bonanza and Kola..and will PTS when time is right.

    People buy horses, train horses, sell horses, that is just the way it is. Even with best training in world, horses go lame, or just aren't going to work out. According to the way you seem to think, those horses are to be kept forever? How many can you afford to do that way?

    And as long as there are idiots who keep breeding horses because "they wanted a cute little foal, and Joe down the road had a stud, so we bred my mare to him" there are going to be plenty of unwanted, unbroke, scruffy grade horses.

    And most of those people? Don't seem to understand how to go out and feed the horses they have in their yards.

    Maybe if working Americans weren't forced to support so many deadbeats and their families? There would be more money for horse sanctuaries...I know I'm tired of watching my tax dollars go to take care of multi-generational mooches.

    Not all horses can be trained. Not all horses are suitable for a beginner, nor will they ever be. Not all horses will stay sound.
         
        03-19-2013, 09:14 AM
      #59
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    Originally Posted by Horseychick94    
    That is pretty much the gist of it. The one person is my main rant. Although, I do think its cold how some people do it for profit alone with no regard of where the horse goes and don't care for the horse at all

    Not everyone looks at horses as their pet and/or best friend. Some people chose to make their living off of horses. Does that automatically make that person less in your eyes because they don't own the horse forever?
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        03-19-2013, 09:15 AM
      #60
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    Originally Posted by Palomine    
    Cows have feelings. So do cockroaches for that matter. All beings are capable of feelings. Well, not so sure about some humans, now that I think about it.

    Some horses are more in tune with their humans. Others are not, in fact I would say that most ARE satisfied with being fed, and couldn't care less about being ridden, or even eyeballed, as long as the feed is coming regularly.

    Telling someone they shouldn't have horses because they view them as livestock? Please.

    Like it or not, horses are expensive. For someone that can only afford one horse, if they are wanting to trail ride and their horse has gotten too old, is lame, or is unsuitable? Are they to keep that horse for 20 or more years then? Never be able to go riding because they can't afford to keep another one they can use? The market for lame horses is pretty slim. Same with one that is actively trying to kill you.

    While my two older horses and the new one will have a home with me for life, that is MY decision. I actually made it 10 years ago or more in the case of Bonanza and Kola..and will PTS when time is right.

    People buy horses, train horses, sell horses, that is just the way it is. Even with best training in world, horses go lame, or just aren't going to work out. According to the way you seem to think, those horses are to be kept forever? How many can you afford to do that way?

    And as long as there are idiots who keep breeding horses because "they wanted a cute little foal, and Joe down the road had a stud, so we bred my mare to him" there are going to be plenty of unwanted, unbroke, scruffy grade horses.

    And most of those people? Don't seem to understand how to go out and feed the horses they have in their yards.

    Maybe if working Americans weren't forced to support so many deadbeats and their families? There would be more money for horse sanctuaries...I know I'm tired of watching my tax dollars go to take care of multi-generational mooches.

    Not all horses can be trained. Not all horses are suitable for a beginner, nor will they ever be. Not all horses will stay sound.

    ^^ That post was awesome. *claps*
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