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post #11 of 58 Old 09-09-2008, 11:36 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks, Jessica... I know she has been worked with desensitizing she dosent spook at the flag or a tarp I can basicly smack her up side the head with it and shes fine she will even walk on it. There isnt much I can do with her about training. Just like with the free lunging. Everyone is always in the arena when im done cleaning stalls so I can barely let her loose.

I can do ground work also, and lunge. I also feel like im limited to what I can do, its not really a make your self at home type of barn its more like what the heck are you doing and why?...This one time I was doing ground work trying to brake her brace in the shoulders and a girl was glaring at me and watching me, I felt really acward. Like any thing I do with my horse im going to be watched and judged. But we only have jumps,cones,barrels available to us to use...I dont know how those can help with desensitizing.

And see I had thought we got past this. We were doing really well and not spooking. But then this with all three bucks just turned me inside out.

And you know this also makes me really mad! Here I was an advance begginer, only having one horse that I only got to ride once. The BO sells me gypsy tells me she no buck,kick,rear, not spooky, 15.2 does well on trails bla bla. WELL Ive been bucked plenty of times. One time the BO set me up for a buck. Gypsy was being really bad in a group lesson. I knew it was coming. The BO told me to canter BOOM shes bucking. And the BO says" yep I knew that was going to happen." YAH WELL SO DID I. But I trusted her... I sticked her the other day shes 15 hands not 15.2! She dosent doo well one trails.... I wonder what els isnt true, oh yah and every time I groom its a biting kicking frenzy, all she does is threaten... Hmmm

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post #12 of 58 Old 09-10-2008, 12:04 AM
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maybe move him to a different stable? doesnt sound like your being taken seriously there or being given the help and support and most of all safety that you need. if theyre not gonna help a bucking horse then their is definitely a safety issue there

a lot of people in the horse world are quite competitive, i know thats true in australia, not sure where your from but its prob the same there
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post #13 of 58 Old 09-10-2008, 03:19 AM Thread Starter
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I really wish there was another barn near here but theres not... It really sucks. My mom and I really want to buy this place it has three acres, at least if we get it we can bring her home. But even then im still stuck with my problem.

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post #14 of 58 Old 09-10-2008, 08:06 AM
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What do you mean? Shes a apendix qh or tb cross... Gypsy is her name.
whoops...that's what i get

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post #15 of 58 Old 09-10-2008, 11:16 AM
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If it were me, and after nearly 3 years she was still a problem to me, I would sell her. It's no fun wondering what is going to happen each time you get in the saddle and it's especially no fun getting hurt.

It is things like that which turn a rider off to horses. There are too many good geldings out there to have to worry about being hurt or the frustrations of a horse you no longer enjoy. Horses need to be enjoyable not a chore.

I think you gave it a good long time but if it isn't working, IMO it's time to move on.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining why I'm right.

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post #16 of 58 Old 09-10-2008, 02:40 PM Thread Starter
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Thats ok kickshaw!

Iridehorses, I know if I tell the BO im selling its going to be my fault I have to sell...Because its all ready my fault for her spooking like this, you know? I just wont tell her till someone comes and looks or she finds her on the web...lol

Am I taking the easy way out? Cause I feel half good about it and half bad. But if ive been dealing with it for so long and the problem cant be solved by me, maybe someone els can fix it.

Can you guys help me with selling? I dont know how much I should ask for, what I should say... I cant say no buck, no spook? Or can I sum that up in one word, HOT? I dont want to lie like I was lied to.

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post #17 of 58 Old 09-10-2008, 02:58 PM
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Thats ok kickshaw!

Iridehorses, I know if I tell the BO im selling its going to be my fault I have to sell...Because its all ready my fault for her spooking like this, you know? I just wont tell her till someone comes and looks or she finds her on the web...lol

Am I taking the easy way out? Cause I feel half good about it and half bad. But if ive been dealing with it for so long and the problem cant be solved by me, maybe someone els can fix it.

Can you guys help me with selling? I dont know how much I should ask for, what I should say... I cant say no buck, no spook? Or can I sum that up in one word, HOT? I dont want to lie like I was lied to.
To begin with, if you feel the BO lied to you (and it sure seems she did) I would not worry what she had to say. It isn't her place to criticize your decision. Since you got her from the BO and the BO thinks your horse is fine, ask her to buy her back.

You've had the horse for a not so pleasant 2 1/2 years - selling her is not taking the easy way out. It may be the right way for you. You need to enjoy your horse. There is a lot of time, energy, and love - not to mention money - that goes into a horse ... you need the one you can trust.

I own several horses but in this past year I bought and sold 5 great horses until I found the right one. I had no qualms about selling a horse after a short period of time because it wasn't the right horse - I knew what I wanted and wasn't willing to settle.

You've been trying for nearly 3 years with your horse and you two just don't seem to be meshing, That doesn't mean you are giving up, just being practical. Truthfully, it doesn't matter if everyone in the world can ride him without a spook, he is your horse and he doesn't work for you.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining why I'm right.

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That makes me feel better. That someone is on my side about it! I gave her a bath yesterday and its a nice day today so i'll be getting pics... There is no way the BO will buy her back she is already going through so much crap, a girl already surrenderd a horse she bought, only had it for 1 month.

I paid 1600 for gypsy, she was for sale at 2800. And I put a lot of work, trails,rides, miles into her I would like to sell her at 2000 but I dont think I'll get it. This is what she knows and her info.

Appendix quarter horse
14 years
15 hh
Dark Bay, with star.

English/ western
solid training level dressage
Pony club prospect, can jump...
Can go out alone on trails, or in group. Does better if shes in the front of group.

.... This is what her old sale page said it has pics to.
http://www.mistyvalleystables.net/Gypsy.htm

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her old ad said suitable for advanced beginners???
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I don't know what your horse market is like, but I think you could get at least $2,000 for her. She sounds exactly like my mare, training wise, but she's taller and younger. I bought my mare for $2,000, but she was worth at least $5,000 in our market. I bought her from my BO, too, so I got a discount. ;)

I would be honest in her ad about the spooking and bucking. You don't need to detail it too much, but people should to know if the horse is spooky and what the horse does when spooked. That way you can be sure that no one with a small child or little experiance will buy her and endanger themselves. I agree with you, you shouldn't follow what your BO did by lying.
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