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    03-30-2012, 10:54 PM
What would be fair?

Some of you are aware of my situation. I won't go into great detail, but here are the basics. I bought a horse in January after trail riding him approximately 5 times, over a couple of weeks. I continued to trail ride 2-3 times per weeks until early March. We did a 15 mile ride and afterwards, he was in great pain. A few days of bute and he was much improved. About 10 days after that, I took him on a gentle, 2 hour ride and afterwards was in a great deal of pain again. I took him to vet and he has advanced Navicular Disease.

The one who sold him is the same one who owns the boarding facility that I am at. She wants to make this situation right and wants me to think about what I think would be fair. I don't know if she knew he was Navicular as she only had him 2 months prior to me buying him. I'm sure that she had suspicion that something was wrong.

So, what would be fair to ask her? The whole purchase price? A percentage of purchase price? What about the medical expenses? I'm not good with this kind of thing, so I want to get some opinions. Thanks!
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    03-30-2012, 11:02 PM
Honestly I don't know. Haven't been in a situation like that. I think it's really gracious of her to want to make it right. In a world of you buy it as is, I'd say you are darn lucky. Nice to hear good seller stories.

Might be a dumb thought (I have them on occasion) but since it's your BO, might it be possible that she has another horse suitable for your needs and would trade? Or help you find another? This is assuming you plan to buy another of course.
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    03-30-2012, 11:09 PM
Or possibly some change in boarding price.
If you continue with the horse and his treatment, that might help offset paying for vet bills and allow you to provide better care.
I see that as fair.
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    03-30-2012, 11:24 PM
Originally Posted by MHFoundation Quarters    
Honestly I don't know. Haven't been in a situation like that. I think it's really gracious of her to want to make it right. In a world of you buy it as is, I'd say you are darn lucky. Nice to hear good seller stories.

Might be a dumb thought (I have them on occasion) but since it's your BO, might it be possible that she has another horse suitable for your needs and would trade? Or help you find another? This is assuming you plan to buy another of course.
Yes, I plan to buy another horse. My current horse can't live where I keep him. He's not able to be turned out nearly enough and the ground is very hard and rocky. I'm planning to donate him to a program called "Horses for Heroes". This allows children of military families to groom and lightly ride horses for no cost. I want to make sure that he is somewhere that has better footing and that he can have a light duty job. He's so wonderful with kids and I think he would be a good candidate for this program.

She would definitely help me find another horse, but do I ask her to help pay for it? She could just say that I'm on my own and to figure it out, but I know that she wants to keep me as a boarder. If she does right by me, it will allow her to keep me there. I just don't know what is right to ask. I didn't do a guarantee contract or anything. I chose to get him vet help and she wanted to wait it out and see how he did after continuing to ride. I don't want to ask too much, but I have put out a substantial amount of money in a very little time, due to her selling me a horse that had major problems. I wouldn't say it's her fault, because I know this was not her intention. It's just such an awkward thing.
    03-30-2012, 11:44 PM
This could come out wrong so bare with me...LoL.

I think it depends on how much you paid for the horse. If you spent $2000 on this horse, I'd want her to contribute a fairly good amount of money to you because not only is that a high purchase price for the horse that you got, but you've also had to put $1000 into vet bills, not including the special shoes and pads, board etc.

I'd want at least $500. Which doesn't begin to cover your costs, but it does help, and I think the thought is going to be what counts. She doesn't HAVE to give you anything. But the fact that she wants to help you in some way, shows that she does have character and a heart.

But if you only paid say, $500 for the horse, then she's giving the money that she made on him, back. Which means you got a "free" horse from her. If that's the case, then I'd want maybe $250 back. Which is even lower compared to what has been put into him.

Tricky situation.
    03-30-2012, 11:55 PM
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Sometimes it can be a bit awkward asking for money, especially in a lump sum, so why don't you ask for it in trade or something?

Like she could give you 50% off board for six months or something to help recuperate costs. That way she isn't really out of pocket - just not making such a profit.
    03-31-2012, 12:09 AM
I like Sakia's idea, that would take the awkwardness out of it.

"Horses for Heroes" - What an awesome thing, I'd not heard of it. Good for you for turning a negative situation into a positive one.
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    03-31-2012, 12:19 AM
I think a trade might be the best thing. I have a horse in mind to buy and I think that this lady will let me make payments. If my BO gives me a deal on board, maybe I can pay the difference towards the new horse.

I paid $1700 for horse and about 1000 towards medical. However, part of the medical included teeth floating, vaccines, etc,. It wasn't all towards the diagnosis of Navicular. I was thinking half the price of horse and half the price of vet visit (which was $400). This would bring it to $1050 or 3 months of free board, or 6 months of half board. The total sum of what I paid took place between mid January and now. Board and shoes of course brings the total up considerably, but I wouldn't count that of course.

Does that sound reasonable? Should I ask for 3 months of free board (for new horse) in exchange? That way, she doesn't have to come up with money out of pocket, but it would definitely help me out.

Also, would it be unreasonable for me to ask that I don't pay board on the horse I currently have? She "rescued" him and did not pay very much for him. She probably paid about a third of what I did. This would only be for the time that I spend looking for a good home that participates in the program. I don't want to ask for too much, but with all the medical expenses and everything, I'm broke! :)
    03-31-2012, 12:28 AM
Good luck with your horse and what to do
    03-31-2012, 12:51 AM
I would ask. If you have a good relationship, she can let you know if it is too much. Keep it friendly. Keep it light - bring bagels!
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