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post #1 of 29 Old 07-27-2014, 08:49 PM Thread Starter
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What's the law on road apples?!

So, I was driving my little donkey in the neighborhood today. A couple having a garage sale promptly ran to the edge of the property to say hello. Well a few minutes into chatting he takes a nice, wet poop (he was a bit nervous)!! I sincerely apologized and said of they had a shovel I'd scoop it up. The man was VERY nice and said he'd get it for me. As I was driving back I was thinking "what if someone really wanted to hassle me about this?" Horses are a luxury on Long Island, so running into horse people who "get it" is a rarity.

So, what's the legality on road apples?
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post #2 of 29 Old 07-27-2014, 09:12 PM
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If you value your riding, then come back and clean it up, is my advice.

Too many good places have been lost because people abuse the privilege and ruin it for others.

Cutting through lawns, leaving road apples in street, or even just going through, can wear on people, so be best you can be, and tidy up after your horse.

And encourage others to also, if they ride there also.
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Depends on where you live. Around here it's all country and no one gives it a second thought. In more residential areas, people stop you to talk hoping the horse will leave something for the flower beds.
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If you value your riding, then come back and clean it up, is my advice.

Too many good places have been lost because people abuse the privilege and ruin it for others.

Cutting through lawns, leaving road apples in street, or even just going through, can wear on people, so be best you can be, and tidy up after your horse.

And encourage others to also, if they ride there also.
I'm sorry, I forgot to add in that I do plan to get a diaper. I was just thinking if, for whatever reason, people got bent out of shape. Of course I would have promised to clean it up... But people get wacky.
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As a matter of law, it could vary from town to town. There is nothing that prevents a town or county from requiring cleaning up, or horse diapers, but I do not know of any that do.

Riding on Public Roads

As a matter of courtesy...if it is a paved road in a neighborhood, I drive back with my pickup to clean it up. If it is a road in the desert, then I consider it fertilizer. If it is a dirt road, then I figure "Dust to dust, ashes to ashes, and horse poop to dust..." My neighbors now waive if they see me riding by, so I guess they appreciate the courtesy. However, I'm the only rider I know who does go back.

This is an interesting case, however:

Thomas Haslem v. William A. Lockwood, 37 Conn. 500, 1871


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There are towns that have ordinances that require you to clean up after your horse. Out in the country, there isn't likely any ordinance.

We've rode into town, approximately 200 people in it, and only had one complaint. We actually had cleaned up but missed one pile. I went and cleaned it up after the complaint.

In bigger cities there may even be an ordinance that you need a permit to ride in town.

As for it being a law or being a crime, not likely. You may get a fine but not arrested.
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post #7 of 29 Old 07-28-2014, 06:58 AM
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We have some lovely trails near here in a Conservation area and the walkers do complain about road apples on the trails. To be a considerate rider, I always get off and kick the manure off the trails because I like riding there and don't want to create problems for the riders.
Also if I am riding and go into someone's driveway and the horse leaves a deposit, I will go back and clean it up. Most people are understanding but I don't want to give them cause for complaint.
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post #8 of 29 Old 07-28-2014, 07:17 AM
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Check your local and state laws. In NC, you do NOT need to clean up on state maintained roads. I got into a hassle with an HOA years ago that threatened me until the DOT told them the law.
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post #9 of 29 Old 07-28-2014, 07:33 AM
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As far as I'm aware, we were told if you're riding, leave it unless it's on a path. If you have the horse in hand, you have to go back and scoop it.

I was chased down on my horse by a man who tooted his horn up my horse's rear, jumped out and grabbed my reins. I was 16 and sobbing, I've never been so scared. My riding partner, who was my instructor, had her jump stick in his face screeching at him to let go in mid dismount.

This was all because when we were using the path by the dog walker path in the woods, my mare offloaded... "and my dog might eat it, or kids may play in it." Teach your dog not to eat poo, and your kids not to play in it then!
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Since the city I live in has an equestrian overlay, and there is not a day in the week that someone is not riding on city streets (everybody around here has backyard horses) it will be quite a while before we get regulated.
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