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post #21 of 96 Old 11-10-2008, 09:21 PM
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MY trainer met him and he pretty much said her horse was flat out dumb. When he is the most talented four-year old I know. So as far as him personally, I don't like him. He was very rude.

As far as his teachings, they can be really helpful. I just don't think that you need all the fancy tools he says you do... Horses don't know any different! Lol.

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post #22 of 96 Old 11-10-2008, 09:31 PM
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JDI, I meant after the horse has achieved collection of course. Would they start teaching them while they are collected? Or just get them to know the cues and how to move their feet, then once they get it slowly add in collection? I'm curious to know now
Sorry Sonny, brain = offline right now I will post again when I can actually think about what I want to say to answer it.


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What annoys me is that he used general horse knowledge, pull his name on it and then sells it for a ridiculous amount of money.
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sorry to get off topic...but M2G is that COBALT in that picture?!?! He's sexy!
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sorry to get off topic...but M2G is that COBALT in that picture?!?! He's sexy!
no, my pumpkin is far from bring that filled in, he still looks like a baby. It is a Canadian tho
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Sorry Sonny, brain = offline right now I will post again when I can actually think about what I want to say to answer it.
Getting tired JDI ...... well I will help but this explaination is not directed at any one person.

A good piaffe takes time and only a step here or there is conceived at first. I find the biggest fault when teaching piaffe is that the trainer can be so busy getting the legs to move correctly that they force the issue and brilliance and animation is lost. Collection comes first and with the introduction of the shortened half steps the horse learns to slowly carry hinmself with an increased bend/load in the hind end. All work must cease when the steps become flat, dull or listless.

To push the horse just to get the legs moving is both incorrect and can lead to an uninspired movement that does not enhance the horse or even look pretty.
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As far as his teachings, they can be really helpful. I just don't think that you need all the fancy tools he says you do... Horses don't know any different! Lol.
Yeah they are not needed, but I found that they are handy at times. I buy all the off brand stuff....but they break so easy lol so that is when I invested in the real ones and they seem to last longer. But it's all definitely not needed (unless you plan to take the level tests, then some of the stuff is required...but I believe they allow offbrand stuff also)
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Yeah they are not needed, but I found that they are handy at times. I buy all the off brand stuff....but they break so easy lol so that is when I invested in the real ones and they seem to last longer. But it's all definitely not needed (unless you plan to take the level tests, then some of the stuff is required...but I believe they allow offbrand stuff also)
The bridles and things are more of what I'm talking about... But whatever works, I mean heck! Use it!

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Getting tired JDI ...... well I will help but this explaination is not directed at any one person.

A good piaffe takes time and only a step here or there is conceived at first. I find the biggest fault when teaching piaffe is that the trainer can be so busy getting the legs to move correctly that they force the issue and brilliance and animation is lost. Collection comes first and with the introduction of the shortened half steps the horse learns to slowly carry hinmself with an increased bend/load in the hind end. All work must cease when the steps become flat, dull or listless.

To push the horse just to get the legs moving is both incorrect and can lead to an uninspired movement that does not enhance the horse or even look pretty.
Thank you Spyder, that's pretty much what I was trying to get at. My trainer always said "just put a wall in front of the horse with your aids and keep the horse brilliant and trotting... just in place"
Of course there's a lot more to it than that, but that's the only thing that was coming to mind at the moment.. :(
I'm lying in bed sick at the moment and didn't think that was a good enough explanation, thank you for stepping in :)


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I can't speak for everyone...but when I post a question...I welcome suggestions from any kind of training method. When im having a training problem or working through an issue...I sometimes need more than one tip or technique to get through it. If something works for me and my horse...i am very grateful and I don't care if it comes from parrelli, anderson or joe-bob whats his face. Don't let some peoples negativity stop you from posting.....you are helping people when you offer them advice!!!! Don't lose sight of that!
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