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        10-18-2013, 10:15 PM
      #51
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by bsms    
    ^^ No, I have not. That is kind of the point.
    Well why are you so against something you have never tried, you know whatever floats your boat, if your sort of riding doesn't need breeches and you can ride in PJ's heck go to it.

    Foe a lot of us we have tried all sorts of things and come back to riding in breeches because they are comfortable, even though they look like KAKA
         
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        10-18-2013, 11:21 PM
      #52
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kayty    
    In a Dressage saddle, your legs are at very close contact with the saddle constantly, there is little room 'to breathe'. It's not about it being "oh sooooooo much tougher than Cavalry riding" (sheesh give me a break), it is the style of riding, the saddle of saddle. Wearing jeans in a Dressage saddle plain out hurts.
    I mention Dressage because it is my discipline, not because I think it is "oh so tough". Please do not attempt to attempt to insult me. You have a small obsession with cavalry and it is brought up in near every post you make - am I therefore not allowed to use my own discipline in my examples?
    Of course you can bring it up. But to suggest that dressage involves more use of the leg and that "BSMS, I would love to see you get through an hour lesson in a Dressage saddle, in a pair of baggy jeans. My lord!", when folks have ridden for years in loose pants in a wide variety of demanding, leg-intensive riding just doesn't make sense. What is it about dressage that results in "chaffing, blisters, cuts and bruises from my ankle to my groin"? Just what are you doing with your legs? I thought in dressage, the legs were supposed to drape the horse, with gentle contact.

    I used the cavalry as an example because it involved thousands of men, riding in the same uniform, and riding in a very demanding environment. I used it because it makes sense - if THEY could ride without injury, doing riding like that and using a style that puts a big emphasis on using the leg for stability, then there is no room for reasons like, "Loose pants make your leg go forward / legs chafe / lose position / etc".

    This thread is filled with reasons why no sane person would attempt to ride a horse in loose fitting pants - except none of those reasons hold up to how people have ridden for years, except for this: "I like riding in them". That, by itself, is all the reason needed.
         
        10-18-2013, 11:33 PM
      #53
    Weanling
    BSMS, a few things:
    I was given pants that look like the ones in the pictures you posted. They flare out on the sides, but are tight in the areas that are in contact with the horse.

    In Dressage you are using your legs to communicate with your horse. Depending in what you are asking and what level you are at (lower levels would have more movement, higher levels are more refined so less movement) your leg will have to move or shift and apply pressure. So yes, there is more possibility of rubs and burns.

    Third, just because the cavalry wore those pant doesn't automatically mean they were comfortable. Women all over the world wear high heels, sometimes all day. It hurts to wear heels for long periods of time. So you can't assume that because a lot of people do it it's pain free.
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        10-18-2013, 11:43 PM
      #54
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    I switch off riding in jeans and breeches/riding tights, and especially in the heat of the summer, tights are my main choice. My jeans either twist weird around my legs riding English without half chaps or they won't seem to fit perfectly under my half chaps or in tall boots. It's much easier to move around and feel "free" in stretchy, thin pants than jeans.
         
        10-19-2013, 12:03 AM
      #55
    Trained
    Yes bsms, when you're on a GP horse in a test, the legs hang nice and quietly. When you're riding a 4 year old with a strong desire to run through your leg, and as such spending the lesson on lateral work involving a lot of movement of your legs, then no, they are not draped quietly.

    Do you get on a breaker and have it wonder off perfectly trained, with the rider able to sit quietly in the saddle and do next to nothing? No.
         
        10-19-2013, 12:20 AM
      #56
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Kiara    

    Third, just because the cavalry wore those pant doesn't automatically mean they were comfortable. Women all over the world wear high heels, sometimes all day. It hurts to wear heels for long periods of time. So you can't assume that because a lot of people do it it's pain free.
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    Trust me, the Cav pants are comfortable . Not great looking (helps to be with a troop so you don't stand out that much more), but very comfortable The only think I'd change is making a silk pair for Summer (cotton and wool were already available).

    All I can say about high heels, tight little mini shorts and other female attire that can't be comfortable......women continue to be gluttons for punishment. Some even still wear corsets .
         
        10-19-2013, 12:33 AM
      #57
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kayty    
    Are you KIDDING????!!!!!!!! They are the most hideous, foul, unattractive, unflattering piece of clothing I own, except maybe my granny undies to wear under my hideous WHITE competition breeches to try and avoid the dreaded undies line.
    Unless you are 6 foot tall, with the backside of a goddess, legs sculpted out of marble and a washing board stomach, then breeches WILL make you look flabby, wide, jiggly and other sorts of delightful 'fashionable' appearances.

    BSMS, I would love to see you get through an hour lesson in a Dressage saddle, in a pair of baggy jeans. My lord! I once thought I'd get away with wearing a pair of my 'old faithfuls' that I usually wear when taking the nags to the beach for a play, in a casual lesson. Holy moly, I had chaffing, blisters, cuts and bruises from my ankle to my groin. The baggy fabric killed me!

    Breeches allow you to sit in the saddle without having to rearrange seams, folds etc. without causing any restriction to the knee or hip/pelvis if fitted well.
    For a trail ride in a comfy stock (Aussie) saddle, absolutely wear a pair of jeans. I imagine a Western saddle also allows for jean wearing. But a Dressage saddle, no way jose!! Not if you actually want to actively ride.

    But, if breeches are for fashion, I'm obviously a leading trend setter and better throw on my favourite pair of white, sticky bum Kerritts that I compete in, and head down to the local cafe to show off my delightful cottage cheese bottom.
    Well, I can't say what they look like on you, but all the girls I see training around here (and the ones from my early days in Germany back in the 60's - 1971 all look good. Of course I'll concede that they're all in their late teens and 20's, but it's a bit like tennis and ice skating.....they spend all that time working the body and they look good in outfits. The girls I knew that rode 40 years ago LOVED how they looked and at times even wore them to school.

    As for dressage saddles....can't say for all stock saddles, but everyone I've ever sat (including the one I have now) is a dressage seat and tree (my biggest complaint about them)
         
        10-19-2013, 12:39 AM
      #58
    Green Broke
    Bsms. Why the hostility? Goodness.

    I get your OPINION is that its just fashion....well okay. Kudos to you.

    For OTHERS there is a valid reason OTHER than fashion.

    I have ridden both english and western...ive ridden in an english saddle in both jeans AND breeches and I can say with 100% certainty that breeches are FAR more comfortable and logical for english saddles.


    Now are you going to sit there and tell me I am WRONG AFTER I have PERSONALLY experienced both???? How is you're argument supposed to be valid AT ALL when you can't ACTUALLY argue with someones PERSONAL experiences???

    Really?


    Oh also....I absolutely HATE how I look in my breeches and not ONE person I ride english with likes how they look in them either so saying its for fashion is an absolute UNTRUTH for me....am I saying that for tou and your experience?
    No.
         
        10-19-2013, 12:44 AM
      #59
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by its lbs not miles    
    Well, I can't say what they look like on you, but all the girls I see training around here (and the ones from my early days in Germany back in the 60's - 1971 all look good. Of course I'll concede that they're all in their late teens and 20's, but it's a bit like tennis and ice skating.....they spend all that time working the body and they look good in outfits. The girls I knew that rode 40 years ago LOVED how they looked and at times even wore them to school.

    As for dressage saddles....can't say for all stock saddles, but everyone I've ever sat (including the one I have now) is a dressage seat and tree (my biggest complaint about them)
    I'm a body builder in my mid 20's, I spend 2+ hours/day in the gym 5-6 days/week... and I still hate the way breeches look!!! I'm not a large frumpy old thing with my bottom jiggling around behind my knees
    Maybe back 'in the day' with the very different fashions getting around, they were somewhat seemingly attractive. Now.... just no
         
        10-19-2013, 12:55 AM
      #60
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kayty    
    I'm a body builder in my mid 20's, I spend 2+ hours/day in the gym 5-6 days/week... and I still hate the way breeches look!!! I'm not a large frumpy old thing with my bottom jiggling around behind my knees
    Maybe back 'in the day' with the very different fashions getting around, they were somewhat seemingly attractive. Now.... just no
    I'm sure there have always been girls who didn't like the way the pants made them look . Just as I'm sure they're still girls who think they look good.
    As long as the guys think they look good, that's all that matters .
    (now let the barrage begin .... I'll either be comfortable in my bunker or far enough down the road on Val that I won't have to worry about the women in breeches coming after me....not many of them ride on a hwy )
         

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