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post #1 of 35 Old 11-27-2012, 01:35 AM Thread Starter
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Question Why are studs so hard to handle?

I've had a niggling question about studs for a while now, every since I began reading this board a year or so ago. Everybody refers to studs as dangerous, they would never keep one, how hard they are to handle, and things like that. I have no personal experience handling one (and don't think I want to until I have much, much more experience as a horse person if at all!) but have wondered what makes them so much more aggressive than a mare or gelding? When gelded, why do they become quieter and less temperamental? Why aren't mares the same as studs in levels of 'aggressiveness?'

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I've had a niggling question about studs for a while now, every since I began reading this board a year or so ago. Everybody refers to studs as dangerous, they would never keep one, how hard they are to handle, and things like that. I have no personal experience handling one (and don't think I want to until I have much, much more experience as a horse person if at all!) but have wondered what makes them so much more aggressive than a mare or gelding? When gelded, why do they become quieter and less temperamental? Why aren't mares the same as studs in levels of 'aggressiveness?'
Short answer: Testosterone.

Long answer: Studs can be just as pleasant and well trained as any other horse, but how often do you see people just throw a stud into a pen and use them only to breed? They go stir crazy, know how big and bad they are and end up with zero respect for people.
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I'm betting the ragging on studs you're talking about originates mostly from the critique or breeding section.. Whose owners are inexperienced and have no business owning/raising/handling studs.

Some members here have polite (and handsome) studs and no one complains about them. Studs just require extra care so that they don't become terrors.
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One word - hormones. The high male hormonal level of studs drives them to be more naturally dominant, especially, when a mare in heat comes in sight. That also adds short attention span to any external circumstances (human interaction, for example) and often high sensitivity. Their behavior is not neccesarily aggressive - it's just very dominant, and a dominant horse needs a really high motivation to listen to a human - thus, the handler needs to be experienced in horse psychology and body language to treat a stud successfully.

A well mannered, calm stud is a pleasure to work with, though - just not for anyone. If a hore owner is not a professional breeder, one doesn't really need a stud. Also, many myths about the crazy studs come from the tendency to keep them stalled or seperately paddocked away from other horses since early age - such studs don't get to learn normal horsey social interactions and often don't get enough movements, so are more prone to being high strung, inadequate and dangerous. I used to work in a barn where most of the studs were turned out with small groups of geldings daily - they were perfectly calm and easy to handle guys.

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They aren't mean or umm bad. But do need to be seperated. Kinda Lol. You're not gonnna get a good answer, it's all on a horse to horse situation. My wife, she's gives so much for the ponies, had HER pony. A big pleasure paint. He flat loved her. She would rub and pet and groom bla bla bla him daily! He loved her back ten times! Then the mares came in heat. Guess who's proud cut? Yep now mommas good boy is a flaming dink! Risk of horses getting hurt by being run thru a fence or straight horse on horse was more then we had at the time. Now we could. :( she still crys. Basically they need to be able to be seperated frOm the herd. Other then that it's all training. If our studly gelding coulda been penned at the time, he'd still be mommas favorite.
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Wow, thanks for such a quick response everyone!

So studs are more aggressive because of their testosterone, and also because of the way many of them are handled and their 'job?' and when gelded they lose their studliness, right?

Are broodmares the same way? (sorry if these questions are annoying.)

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If a stud is gelded late, he may keep some of his studdy behavior.

And no, broodmares are just normal mares - some are crankier when in heat or when protecting a foal, but generally it depends on their individual characters. :)
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I don't believe stallions require extra care. You treat them like any other horse. Keep them socialized. Keep them turned out with geldings from the time they are born. Turn them out with pregnant mares at their young "i just figured out i'm as stallion" age.

It's the unsocialized studs locked in stalls turned out away from other horses that have terrible attitudes. That was all I saw when I went to Connecticut this summer. I can't believe how some people shelter them and then wonder why they have such an unruly animal.

Most breeders I know imprint on their foals and handle them daily. They grow up with other horses outside so they can grow mentally and physically. I find 9 out of 10 times I meat a rude stallion they weren't given this start to life.
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This. A stud is a perfectly normal horse, just like any other, if he is let to be A HORSE, not locked away, just because his owners have these rigid stereotypes.
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Broodmare, round here anyways, is just breeding stock. Meaning they may or may not have been broke but are used primarily for breeding. Mares are the nastiest of all in my opinion. They run the herd. So a nasty mare will cause just as much if not more issues in an established herd.
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