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post #1 of 12 Old 04-19-2013, 02:06 PM Thread Starter
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Worming and a foal

I need to worm Dalilah. I'm planning to use Zimecterin Gold this round, but Panzer is just 2 weeks old now. Is it safe to give it to her? How about worming him? I did not worm her when she was late term due to the horror stories I heard about it causing fetal death. Who knows if it would have or not, but it wasn't such a big deal that it couldn't wait until afterwards.
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post #2 of 12 Old 04-19-2013, 09:43 PM Thread Starter
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Oh come on I know you guys know about worming and a foal. I need to get it ordered, Horse.com has it buy 6 get one free, so 7 tubes for $56.99.
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I'd hold off and wait until foal is older for her.

And would not worm him for a while either.

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Get a fecal done and with the results, the vet clinic gives recommendations on what to worm with. Mine does anyways.
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I only use Ivermectin in pregnant mares and mares with foal at side. Zimectrin Gold is not recommended for pregnant mares nor for foals under 2 months of age (I still woudln't do it until AT LEAST 6 months).

I give Ivermectin to the mare and I don't start deworming the foal until 4 months, then I still only give Ivermectin.

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Zimectrin Gold is not approved for foals under 2 months of age. The bigger problem I have with it is you are targeting worms that a foal this age does not have. Why give them toxic chemicals that are of no benefit to them at this point? Foals are at greatest risk for heavy ascarid loads as most other worms have longer life cycles and don't become problematic until they are closer to 6 months of age. This is the only age group that I use Panacur on. It's as mild a dewormer as there is. Not deworming the mare prior to foaling is putting the foal at risk for a larger worm load sooner in life. Foals eat momma's poop to populate their GI tract with bacteria as it is sterile when born and incapable of digesting fiber. While they eat the poop, they are eating any shed worm larvae and that starts a new life cycle in the foal.
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Thanks for the input guys. I think I'll just hit her with ivermectin as WS suggested and not worry about him for now.
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Zimectrin Gold is not approved for foals under 2 months of age. The bigger problem I have with it is you are targeting worms that a foal this age does not have. Why give them toxic chemicals that are of no benefit to them at this point? Foals are at greatest risk for heavy ascarid loads as most other worms have longer life cycles and don't become problematic until they are closer to 6 months of age. This is the only age group that I use Panacur on. It's as mild a dewormer as there is. Not deworming the mare prior to foaling is putting the foal at risk for a larger worm load sooner in life. Foals eat momma's poop to populate their GI tract with bacteria as it is sterile when born and incapable of digesting fiber. While they eat the poop, they are eating any shed worm larvae and that starts a new life cycle in the foal.
Tbanks for all the info. To put your mind at ease I never said I was going to use it on him, I said for her and asked if it was safe for her and asked about worming him, as in when is it needed. This is my first foal so I'm trying to get as much info as possible and do things right! Oh, and I saw him eating her poo and wondered why he was, thanks for enlightening me!
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I never said I was going to use it on him, I said for her and asked if it was safe for her and asked about worming him,
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The reason we all mentioned giving it to him is because, WHATEVER YOU PUT IN HER WILL GO TO HIM IN HER MILK. Just giving the dewormer to her will still affect him.

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The reason we all mentioned giving it to him is because, WHATEVER YOU PUT IN HER WILL GO TO HIM IN HER MILK. Just giving the dewormer to her will still affect him.
So is it ok for me to give her ivermectin then?
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