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        05-13-2013, 01:24 AM
      #71
    Showing
    Muppet, yep, that's her. She's pretty much what can be expected from so many decades of inbreeding when the stock was mediocre to start with LOL.

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    Originally Posted by soenjer55    
    Well... she does have charm!
    Do you think her neck will fill out/ get better a bit, or is that purely a conformational fault that will always look that way?
    LOL, thank you . She's got a winning personality and that's why I wanted her...certainly not for her looks.

    As for her neck, I'm sure it will likely fill out some and may not look quite so terrible when she's matured and working properly...but it will never be pretty. The ewe in it is structural so no amount of proper muscle will ever make it look correct.
         
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        05-13-2013, 01:45 AM
      #72
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    For goodness sakes, the reason why the thread will be locked is because of all the bickering in it.

    To me as a confo newby, I can see something is off, but not know what, it helps to see extreme examples. It's hard to see when you are uneducated if it's slight, but when it's severe and I see it, then I can see it when it's slight too. And I've had horses 30 years.

    If someone posts something offensive, report the comment, same as any other convo.

    And if people are offering terrible horses at stud, I think it's our duty to say something.
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        05-13-2013, 02:05 AM
      #73
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    Originally Posted by AlexS    
    For goodness sakes, the reason why the thread will be locked is because of all the bickering in it.

    To me as a confo newby, I can see something is off, but not know what, it helps to see extreme examples. It's hard to see when you are uneducated if it's slight, but when it's severe and I see it, then I can see it when it's slight too. And I've had horses 30 years.

    If someone posts something offensive, report the comment, same as any other convo.

    And if people are offering terrible horses at stud, I think it's our duty to say something.

    Conformation Tutorial

    ^ that's actually educational. If you want to learn conformation I suggest havin a read.

    Seeing extreme falts and medical conditions that people are calling 'faults' aint doin much for ya-- how can you point out a fault if alls you seen is extreme cases of it? It will look flawless to you.


    I mean this in the most respectful way- but its not your business to stop someone from breeding their mare to anyones stud.. if they can't see the stud is flawed they probably shouldnt be breeding- period. Not to mention the mare is probably just as flawed..
         
        05-13-2013, 02:07 AM
      #74
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    Originally Posted by ARTEMISBLOSSOM    






    Ok in the first picture the colts legs seem wrong what is the term for that? Or is there something else wrong with him? The middle picture...... the horse is downhill?? Is that the fault that the picture was posted for? Whats wrong with the horse in the last picture??
    I am uneducated about this, so I will try.

    1) what I see - oh those legs. I believe it's called post legged or upright. The little legs are so under the horse, how would it move out. I can't imagine a canter.

    2) super downhill. Butt should be in line with withers, and then add in the low back, it just doesn't look strong.

    3) Not entirely sure. Neck looks a little too thin, but so what? Longer pasterns, but a lot of horses have that too. I see normal horse.
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        05-13-2013, 02:11 AM
      #75
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        05-13-2013, 02:11 AM
      #76
    Green Broke
    ^^ me too
         
        05-13-2013, 02:21 AM
      #77
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    Me too, and I have had horses 30 years. In the slight cases I find it hard to see, but once I see an extreme case, it's easier to see it in slight cases.

    I think this convo has a place.
         
        05-13-2013, 02:21 AM
      #78
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by toto    
    Is it insulting to you when I ask for an educated elaboration of whats physically wrong with the horses conformation?

    I feel like if you're going to have a 'conformation flaw lookie thread' yall should have to elaborate on the issues that caused the fault- like that swayed backed appy.. theres nothing saying whats wrong with it-- just his picture in a thread titled 'worse examples of conformation' sounds like a book with no words and only pictures.. how is that educational information? Its not.

    Technically the appaloosa don't belong here- that's not a 'conformation fault' its a medical disease. Most of these cases are. This thread need not exist-- its making people think these are all conformation faults and theyre not. Some horses are sick.. that's the part that makes me just scratch my head at this thread..

    And when you type things like 'you can tear them to pieces' sounds sadistic. You're askin people to make fun of these poor horses. Its a shame and I wont be unsubscribing. Show me something that's factual information and then you can call this thread 'educational ' as of now its a bashing thread-- I should just stop and let it get locked on its own.. wont be long anyway.
    When looking at a horse (as in a judging competition), you don't have the luxery of a medical history. Therefore, regardless of cause a fault is a fault. In my example, you can see how bad her back legs are, her sway back, & how disportionate she is REGARDLESS of cause. Sometimes it works well to see "extreme" examples to better identify the more realistic examples. The majority (not all) of the horses here seem to be from the poster as in my case. I have no problems with people "tearing apart" her conformation. And if it wasn't insanely past my bedtime I would spend time detailing what's going on with her. Which I will do tomorrow.

    Smrobs, I think you're right that her neck will most likely fill out enough to make it a little less obvious. But she's a great example of how perfect isn't always best.
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        05-13-2013, 02:28 AM
      #79
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    I think it's also important to say that a horses heart can overcome a lot. The amount of effort the horse puts in.

    I am getting excited again to see the GP at Devon at the end of the month. 2 years ago there was a horse there, a 15h TB who took down one fence and didn't make the jump off, and came in about 8th. As I 15.1h TB owner, I liked the little guy, so I ran off to see him in the warm up ring when he came out. Holy horse I would have never bought, and doesn't that show me to be the idiot.

    If there was a test for heart in a horse, I think it's more valuable.
         
        05-13-2013, 02:55 AM
      #80
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by busysmurf    
    When looking at a horse (as in a judging competition), you don't have the luxery of a medical history. Therefore, regardless of cause a fault is a fault. In my example, you can see how bad her back legs are, her sway back, & how disportionate she is REGARDLESS of cause. Sometimes it works well to see "extreme" examples to better identify the more realistic examples. The majority (not all) of the horses here seem to be from the poster as in my case. I have no problems with people "tearing apart" her conformation. And if it wasn't insanely past my bedtime I would spend time detailing what's going on with her. Which I will do tomorrow.

    Smrobs, I think you're right that her neck will most likely fill out enough to make it a little less obvious. But she's a great example of how perfect isn't always best.

    That bein said- if you don't know the horses medical history and post somethin falsely its teachin the 'newbies' the wrong thing. Why do that to people? If theres one thing I can not stand its havin someine I think I can trust tell me somethin wrong- and me believe it and say it to someone else and them telling me everything I've learned is completely wrong and I have to learn all over..

    Its like sayin I can have a popsicle when in reality its a frozen turd.


    Tearing apart your horses conformation? I have no problems with you posting your own horse here-- don't know why you would but its a different thing when its someone elses love you destroyed. In my opinion- if its not your horse you shouldnt be posting in a thread like this ment for people to 'tear them appart' conformation wise..


    What if one of the owners of these horses sees people posting false things about their horses and bashing the bloodline publicly? That would destroy someones business- someones livelihood.. im not talkin about bad confo but the whole impressive deal.. people breed to horses like that because that's what the show ring has done to them- they want to see those big muscled up horses-- he wasnt even a faulty conformation- just a buncha false information.

    Its messed up and wrong on so many levels.. id be mad if that was my horse.. that's all.
         

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