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        10-29-2013, 09:47 PM
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    Very true! She isn't out of control about worming or anything, its just best done with two people because she tried to walk forward and swing her head in the air. Of course the difficulty might come with the fact that I'm only 4'11 as well and can't reach far...lol. I've tried giving her 'yummy doses' of applesauce but apparently she doesn't even like applesauce?! O_o Well fine! I was just trying to help...trick her that is. Lol.

    Eta (sorry, cobra, didn't see yours in time!)

    Yeah, I figure since the trainer is coming, she'll have a set of things she'll want to do/see and we can go from there. The only things that would be off limits to me with her is lunging at faster than a walk right now. She CAN lunge w-t (I've only done one or two circles so she gets the idea of it) but I don't see a point at this age. I kind of wish I'd worked on saddling her just for the sake of saddling her when I had access to saddles, but its too late now I guess! I haven't bitted her either though, since she hasn't been floated yet.

    Also, her asking price in her ad was $200 as a formality. I'm not interested in making money back from what I've put into her or even getting what I paid for her, but I also didn't want her to go to 'just anyone.' Should I stick to that price, or bring it down if they ask and want to buy her? Or I could just offer to sell for the $200 and give them all of Kenzie stuff (halter, lead rope, blankets that I was given, brushes, and a small O ring french link snaffle if they're interested) and a bag of feed? I really have no idea how to do all of this...

    With Sour, my only concern with the amount of work is her hips. She doesn't have the best conformation. Nice legs, but her back is straight and her croup is steep which means her hips get sore if she isn't properly warmed up, and she tends to need the chiro at least once a year. That shouldn't be a problem though, I would hope...
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        10-30-2013, 12:01 PM
    If they are not interested enough in her to pay $200, then they probably don't need her.
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        10-30-2013, 12:23 PM
    I don't know, I might be odd man out here, but finding a horse that is appropriate for a highly specialized lesson program can be really tricky. At the therapeutic program where I work, we very frequently take horses on a 3-6 month lease before making a commitment to buy outright. It's not that we are wishy washy or financial unstable; we just need to see the horse in our environment first, and, as Endiku said, make sure they can stand up to the workload both physically and mentally.

    Them proposing a lease would not concern me, unless there were other red flags.
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        10-30-2013, 01:08 PM
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    I kind of figured also, that if they DID lease her and just decided she wasn't the right fit for them, it would still buy me some time to find another job and it might not even be a bit deal that she comes back...provided that she's sound and hasn't been 'messed up' at all. Then I could either keep her if that happened since I'd be financially stable again and she is actually REALLY easy to keep (she gets two flakes of hay and a RB right now and stays at a great weight) or I could try finding her a home more suitable if she decided she just isn't a lesson horse.

    I really do think she'll fit in great there. She loves working and doesn't like 'fuss' at all. She'd much prefer you to catch her, tack her up, use her, then put her back than for you to just take her out to love on her, brush get, groom her, feed her treats, etc. I'll definitely make sure we have things super well laid out though in the contract if they do lease.

    And with Kenzie, that's what I figured on her price. Given that she'll have JUST had her teeth floated (thats going to cost me $150 itself... >.>), she's at literally the perfect weight right now, and her hooves are really starting to come along (we're just still working on that left rear hoof trying to get it balanced better), $200 isn't much at all. Either way I'm going to pass along her blankets and some feed to start with since the blanket were free and for Kenzie, but I might keep her halter just for sentimental reasons. The only thing that really had me questioning whether I should ask money for her was that her hernia isn't fixed yet. She's 100% sound, healthy, and ready to move on with life other than that though.

    Actually, it was really funny this morning. Its been HUMID and really warm for almost-November lately, and super rainy/muddy so the horses have been just sort of draggy. It was raining again today but the temperature is down a bit to 72, and I guess Kenzie was feeling GOOD today because when I let her go, as soon as I shut the gate (she knows not to walk away until I do) she went galloping, bucking, and farting off to her two new friends. That's actually the first time I've seen her galloping and kicking up her heels just because she could in the pasture, and it was awesome! I was kind of worried she was going to kill herself though...its a soupy mess out there.

    I was totally impressed and horrified at the same time honestly. She almost ran into her 'boyfriend' Prince, and did this perfect QH impression of stopping on a dime. Tucked her haunches and everything. Not bad for a noodle horse!!!
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        10-31-2013, 03:30 PM
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    Kenzie is being floated tomorrow morning at 11 am if all goes well. It will be her longest trailer ride yet (still not far...LOL. 45 minutes without traffic). Please be praying/hoping she does well with just the first level of sedation, because it costs more with each level. Oh, and that the rotten tooth comes out fast o.o they charge per minute for pulling teeth xD

    Question though, should I go ahead and feed her breakfast before we leave or is it a better idea to just put a few flakes of hay in a net and let her snack in the trailer rather than eating a grain breakfast? I'm assuming she'll be a little ouchy and not want to eat hay for dinner so I'm going to make her an alfalfa-pellet soup (yum...) with her usual grain. I'm not sure if they usually send you home with any bute or antibiotics when teeth are pulled though, since Sour has never had a tooth pulled.

    I think if Kenzie is feeling ok and if the waller equine vet's farrier is out there, we're also going to have him take a look at and try trimming her feet. He's also a licensed chiropractor so I thought maybe we'll have better luck with him than I've been having with all of the other vets. We'll just bypass that and bring her home though if the sedatives don't wear off pretty fast.
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        10-31-2013, 03:49 PM
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    I would just feed her her normal stuff pre-float..and have hay in the trailer [why not make it a cushy ride? Haha]. Unless there's a reason not to? I don't think it's like sedating humans where you can't eat for a while before going under. And in the case of Kenzie, I would imagine that more calories=better. :)

    Who knows though, she might not be phased at all by having a simple tooth pulled...I mean, she DID nearly lose her ear+had that infection for a while. Her pain tolerance has got to be crazy high!

    If you do have hay in the trailer, make sure to get it all out before putting her back in to go home. I only say that because Lacey is really tolerant to sedatives and will appear to be totally 'over' being sedated in about 2 hours...but give her hay/grain, watch her immediately [mildly] choke. It happened twice before I wised up and started giving her 4 hours without food after a float, vs the recommended 2.
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        10-31-2013, 06:51 PM
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    Haha, yes. More calories always = better. I'm actually curious just how many calories she eats every day...Family P can't believe how much hay she can pack away in that belly of hers. Lol.

    And that's so true o.o watch as she comes out of the vet like 'so....when does the pain start?' Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it felt BETTER after being pulled. Its not swollen around the tooth and she isn't acting like it hurts or anything, but with as short as it is it has to at least be sensitive. That's why I've been turning all of her feed into mush. Even if it isn't actually bothering her, it bothers me to think it MIGHT be bothering her! Lol. She definitely seems to have high pain tolerance though for sure O_o even when she cut her shoulder she didn't even have a hitch in her stride. She was just like "yeah, sliced half the skin off of my shoulder...cool huh? WHERE IS MY BREAKFAST I AM STARVING WOMAN." And yet she's so sensitive at the same time. Flies drive her absolutely bonkers, poor gal. I have to practically bathe her in fly spray every day to keep her from constantly stomping and swishing her tail.

    Thanks so much for the heads up about her eating afterwards. The last thing I need is her choking! Better safe than sorry.
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        11-01-2013, 08:27 PM
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    Well we ended up not pulling the tooth because the vet said it would be really hard to get out and it is a baby tooth so it should fall out on its own. Supposedly it really isn't even as damaged as it looks, its just worn down because she always cribs on that side of her mouth. She had the usual floating done though and I had them evaluate the hernia for surgery...I don't know if its just that clinic or what but they want a LOT to fix it. More than I'd be able to pay even if I still had my job. We had the farrier out there trim her hooves though and I liked his work. He did a much better job fixing the under run heels than anyone else has. She was a bit ouchy on the gravel immediately after the trim, but when we turned her back out at Family P's they went through their 'ritualistic' canter around the pasture and she didn't seem sore at all.

    I might write more in the morning. I'm exhausted and kind of worrying over here about the lack of job and finding her a good home even with that hernia...I definitely can't fix it. They want $600 for the surgery ._.
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        11-02-2013, 04:48 PM
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    I don't know whether to be annoyed, frustrated, or amazed.

    My exact words in a different thread about Kenzie asking for a confo critique, and receiving a reply from Elana saying she might make a nice low level eventing horse.

    Originally Posted by endiku
    I'm not sure that she'll be any good at jumping though...she's too much of a clutz as of right now! Haha.
    yeah. Kenzie decided to make me eat my words.

    Some time between last night and 9 this morning, she jumped a 4 1/2 foot tall fence into someone else's pasture. No big deal right? We could just go over and get her. Wrong. The pasture only has one gate, and that gate is padlocked. And we can't get ahold of the pasture's owners. It is now almost 4 and she is still in their pasture with no way of getting her out. Even worse, today was supposed to be the day for that lady to come out and see if she wanted to but Kenzie, but I had to call and explain to her that we would have to reschedule. Why? Because Kenzie the 14hh wonder-pony jumped a 4 1/2 ' tall fence. Now I'm worried that the lady won't want her, or that family P is going to be really annoyed that Kenzie jumped out and created more work for them (I live 25-30 minutes away) and they'll want me to move her. But I can't.

    And now that she knows she can jump, and that there is more grass over there to eat, she is going to jump again most likely. Great.
        11-02-2013, 06:10 PM
    At least she is a good jumper.
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