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        09-26-2011, 10:59 AM
      #1
    Foal
    Smile Would like an outsider's opinion...

    I posted already in the "Meet the Community" forum. But I would really like someone's opinion.

    I'll be getting my first horse, everything as in boarding has already been taken care of. But here's the story.

    My trainer found an older mare that is rough looking, but is confident that she will be perfect for my first. All I really know is that she's about 15 and a half hands, she's a grey, is 20, and is skinny. My trainer says that she's completely trained, and will be there every part of the way with me.

    I know she's going to be a lot of work. She has to put on a bit of weight, and I'll be walking her around for a few months to build muscle for her. She is a diamond in the rough, but with good grooming, I'm sure she'll look much better than she does right now.

    I don't know how to post pictures. But I would love to share the pictures I have of her. I'll be going today myself to take a look and meet her. And would be bringing her to the stables in the beginning of the month.
         
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        09-26-2011, 11:03 AM
      #2
    Banned
    For a first horse you DON'T need a "diamond in the rough".

    You need a trained, quiet middle aged horse that can take a lot of inconsistencies in your riding and still truck on.

    The last thing a new rider needs is a "project horse".

    WALK AWAY from this deal...no matter how cheap the initial cost may seem.
         
        09-26-2011, 11:13 AM
      #3
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Spyder    
    For a first horse you DON'T need a "diamond in the rough".

    You need a trained, quiet middle aged horse that can take a lot of inconsistencies in your riding and still truck on.

    The last thing a new rider needs is a "project horse".

    WALK AWAY from this deal...no matter how cheap the initial cost may seem.
    That was what I was thinking initially, but I don't mind putting work into her. It will give me time to bond with her before being able to ride her. I'm torn.

    Apparently she's ride-able, but I would like to make sure. If she is, do you think it would be worth the investment? There would only be the issue of getting her healthy then.
         
        09-26-2011, 11:16 AM
      #4
    Foal
    Let's see if I can get pictures up...
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        09-26-2011, 11:25 AM
      #5
    Yearling
    If you want a project or to rehome a rather sad-looking horse, that's fine. But you don't need months to "bond" with a new horse before riding it. If you want to ride, get something you can ride. Especially as a beginner. Not something of dubious health and soundness that you may or may not be able to ride.
         
        09-26-2011, 11:33 AM
      #6
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by thesilverspear    
    If you want a project or to rehome a rather sad-looking horse, that's fine. But you don't need months to "bond" with a new horse before riding it. If you want to ride, get something you can ride. Especially as a beginner. Not something of dubious health and soundness that you may or may not be able to ride.
    I'll be seeing her today. I would like my trainer to get on her, but I don't feel it's a good idea in her condition.

    I know it wouldn't take months to bond with her, but I figure it's going to take 2-3 months to get her healthy, and build some muscle through walking. Which would be a good time to bond.
         
        09-26-2011, 11:45 AM
      #7
    Yearling
    It's up to you, of course, but my outsider's opinion is, if I was looking for a beginner's riding horse, *no way* would I consider buying one that wasn't in good enough condition to be test-ridden multiple times, in a variety of circumstances. You want to see if *you* can ride it; or is it too unresponsive, too fast, too spooky, bucks when you give it incorrect aids, that sort of thing. You won't know unless you ride it. Take a look round the forums here and you will find many threads where people write stuff along the lines of: "He's so sweet and gentle on the ground and we have a great bond, but he turns into a holy terror when ridden. Please help!"

    It takes a fair bit of knowledge to rehab a horse. Lord only knows how sound it is or what underlying health problems it may have. And vet bills (cheap horses usually aren't). I'm not sure I would do it, and I've had horses for most of my life. Also, if it's in the condition of that horse, you won't know what its "real" personality is like. Many horses can appear quiet and gentle when they are significantly underweight, but as soon as the weight and muscle go on and they are feeling better, they turn into a different, and often far more exciting, horse.

    I hope you're considering having whatever horse you consider buying thoroughly vet checked.
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        09-26-2011, 11:47 AM
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    Super Moderator
    I agree, you don't need a horse that may...OR MAY NOT suit your needs when she recovers. Is this a "resale" through your trainer? I'm just surprised a trainer would take you this route, personally.

    Is she a freebie? Even if she is, there are much better options. You often do get what you paid for.....

    As for your trainer getting on her....she is not the horse, now, that she might be healthy. Besides, you should get a younger horse who will be your partner much longer than this one is likely to be.
         
        09-26-2011, 11:52 AM
      #9
    Showing
    It's your first horse and I can understand the "need" to bond. It's over rated. It's 100 x more important that the horse is a been there and done that and could care less about your mistakes then have one who nickers when you come to the barn but tries to kill you when you want to ride.

    The horse you posted is in bad shape and may need more work then is worth the money you may pay - even if she is free.

    My current horse, Bonnie, is 14 and the most rock solid horse I've owned in a long time. She is a no nonsense horse who knows her job and does it well. She is not the type of horse that comes over to you and puts her head on your shoulder and wants to be groomed. It's more important that my horse does her job and keeps me safe at the same time so that I can concentrate on what I need to be doing. I've owned horses for over 30 years and that is more important to me then one who is in my pocket looking for treats but needs constant training.

    There are many many horses out there for little or no money that will make a good match for you - especially in this economy and at this time of the year. Use your head and not your heart.

    BTW, a horse in that condition is many times a different horse once she is fat and healthy.
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        09-26-2011, 11:57 AM
      #10
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thesilverspear    
    It's up to you, of course, but my outsider's opinion is, if I was looking for a beginner's riding horse, *no way* would I consider buying one that wasn't in good enough condition to be test-ridden multiple times, in a variety of circumstances. You want to see if *you* can ride it; or is it too unresponsive, too fast, too spooky, bucks when you give it incorrect aids, that sort of thing. You won't know unless you ride it. Take a look round the forums here and you will find many threads where people write stuff along the lines of: "He's so sweet and gentle on the ground and we have a great bond, but he turns into a holy terror when ridden. Please help!"

    It takes a fair bit of knowledge to rehab a horse. Lord only knows how sound it is or what underlying health problems it may have. And vet bills (cheap horses usually aren't). I'm not sure I would do it, and I've had horses for most of my life. Also, if it's in the condition of that horse, you won't know what its "real" personality is like. Many horses can appear quiet and gentle when they are significantly underweight, but as soon as the weight and muscle go on and they are feeling better, they turn into a different, and often far more exciting, horse.

    I hope you're considering having whatever horse you consider buying thoroughly vet checked.
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    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    I agree, you don't need a horse that may...OR MAY NOT suit your needs when she recovers. Is this a "resale" through your trainer? I'm just surprised a trainer would take you this route, personally.

    Is she a freebie? Even if she is, there are much better options. You often do get what you paid for.....

    As for your trainer getting on her....she is not the horse, now, that she might be healthy. Besides, you should get a younger horse who will be your partner much longer than this one is likely to be.

    Maybe she isn't the right option then. I was hoping for a healthier horse, and like you both said, there could be underlying health conditions. Which I argued with my trainer about for hours yesterday. But she's convinced that all she needs is weight... I think I'd still like to see her, but you're right. She probably isn't for me. I doubted myself, because I am new, and I thought I could trust my trainer... I'm thinking of getting my friend to come with, she knows what she's talking about... And wouldn't be trying to sell off the horse... My trainer found this mare through her friend, that knows the rancher. He said that she was at the lower end of the herd, and wasn't able to eat as much. Thank you so much!
         

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