Would you buy a horse who cribs?

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    09-04-2012, 10:35 AM
Would you buy a horse who cribs?

My neighbor is looking for a horse for her daughter (age 10). The daughter and the parents have almost no experience with horses. They are where my family was two years ago. :). The BO where we ride and take lessons has a horse that the girl is trying for a month...he's a real sweet boy... But has a few issues:

1). He cribs on EVERYTHING. The fence, the feed tray, his lead rope. The BO says he hasn't been doing it for long, but our trainer says that looking at his neck, this habit has been around for awhile.

2). He rubs his hair off. The horse has no hair on his face and multiple bare spots on his body. He also seems to be very gassy and makes a funny noise when trotting (trainer says its a gut noise).

3). He can be spooky on the ground. He is terrified of cross ties and the wash stall.

4) There are gaps in his training. He's 10 and has no idea how to pick up his leads.

Our trainer thinks he has a nice personality, but had the same concerns we do. She thinks with training the gaps in his knowledge can be fixed. The other issues could be more difficult.

So, knowing this horse is 10 and the family wants him for a beginning rider. The horse would be an all-rounder. They would want to be able to ride him at play days, work him Western pleasure (local shows), and trail ride. The BO is asking $3,500. (Average cost around here is between $1,500 and $4,000)

Would you buy this horse?
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    09-04-2012, 10:39 AM
For that price, and all those issues on top of it.. I probably wouldn't. Maybe if the price was lower, and if there were valid reasons for the holes in his training.

I'm bringing home an OTTB mare this weekend who cribs, and also has a joint problem.. but she's considerably cheap and there's ways to manage her issues. She's also an absolute joy to be around and has no other vices besides the cribbing.. although she is a bit of a hard keeper.

If the daughter really likes him, and the family is willing to pay the extra costs to keep his issues under control.. then I'd go for it, but they'd really need to evaluate it.
    09-04-2012, 10:42 AM
Would you? Minus even the cribbing (which I would not buy a horse that cribs)
Spooks on the ground for an inexperienced person at any age would not be good, let along a 10 yr old.

For that price tag you could get an awesome horse in my area and have it shipped and not have any of the issues you are telling me this horse has.
    09-04-2012, 10:45 AM
Do you know if cribbing can cause issues down the road? It's not something I'm familiar with, other than knowing what it looks like and that it's "bad".

I've heard of cribbing collars, but the BO doesn't like them.

I guess our main concern is that this is a gateway to higher expenses or bigger issues.

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    09-04-2012, 10:46 AM
First, he's a cribber. Second, he obviously has some sort of skin problem. Third, he's 10 y/o and has enough training/fear issues that he wouldn't be suitable for a youngster.

I wouldn't knowingly buy a cribber, and certainly wouldn't buy one who has something wrong with his skin so much that he's rubbed all the hair off his head.

For $3,500 your friends could buy a healthy, NOT spooky, noncribber. Pass.
    09-04-2012, 10:46 AM
I personally would not buy that horse. Cribbing is destructive and if he is going to be shown I don't think he would show well with the lack of hair on his face and body. With regards to his spookiness, fear of cross ties and wash stalls it would take some work to desensitize him for showing purposes. And, the asking price in our neck of the woods, with the gaps in training evident would be way too much. Just my opinion without having seen him.
    09-04-2012, 10:51 AM
Originally Posted by WickedNag    
Would you? Minus even the cribbing (which I would not buy a horse that cribs)
Spooks on the ground for an inexperienced person at any age would not be good, let along a 10 yr old.

For that price tag you could get an awesome horse in my area and have it shipped and not have any of the issues you are telling me this horse has.
You're right...I would not buy this horse.

I love his personality...but our mare (who we purchased for $3,000) did not have ANY of these issues. Her biggest "fault" was a little stiffness from being a pasture puff for 6 months. Regular workouts and some joint supplements fixed her right up.

I'm thinking everything else can be fixed with time and $$$. I just don't know anything about cribbing. I've told the Mom my thoughts, but wanted some more opinions to give her. :). Also, if they ARE stuck on this horse, I told them I would negotiate the price way down and get a vet check.
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    09-04-2012, 10:54 AM
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Personally, that horse in that situation would be a huge NO to me.

Would I buy a horse that cribs? I might....but I would have HUGE reasons for overcoming what is usually a deal breaker for me.

If the horse have great talent, I might decide to override my better judgement.

Cribbing has so many downsides..,

* it tears up fencing, barns, everything

* requires keeping a tight cribbing collar which requires almost daily care to avoid rubbing holes in the horse's neck

* is often accompanied by gastric ulcers that can cause digestive problems

And so many other things I would have to decide to deal with.
    09-04-2012, 11:00 AM
Originally Posted by Allison Finch    

Cribbing has so many downsides..,

* is often accompanied by gastric ulcers that can cause digestive problems

THAT was probably my biggest concern. I plan to talk to the Mom tonight. I might need to encourage them to lease a different horse right away. My fear (if it were my kid), would be her falling in love with an unsuitable horse. While I WILL disappoint my child for her safety (and my pocketbook)...I don't see any reason to cause her heartache if it can be avoided.
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    09-04-2012, 11:02 AM
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No I wouldnt normaly do so.

I can tolerate weavers and box walkers but I personaly cannot copee with cribbers or windsuckers as it drives me batty!

Even if the horse wasnt a cribber It would not be suitable for a novice and certainly not at that price.

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