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        09-18-2011, 09:40 AM
    Yes, I would consider that bad behaviour. I too had a horse that was that way when I first got him, but After a few months of showing him who's in charge he soon stopped :) Good luck!
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        09-18-2011, 12:57 PM
    Originally Posted by Dresden    
    Lucky will test a new rider to see what he can get away with. He doesn't buck or bolt or anything but he will try to turn the way he wants to, break from a trot to a walk, attempt to stop at the arena gate, just generally see what someone will allow him to do. I did not let him get away with it and he doesn't do it with me any more. I consider this testing. Most horses I have known will test someone they don't know...I am assuming he'd do this with any new rider but the only person who has tried to ride him since I got him is my boyfriend.

    My boyfriend( who grew up riding but has never had lessons and has only ridden twh's before) rode him yesterday. At first Lucky tried to turn etc, this "can I get away with this" kind of stuff. Afterwards my boyfriend told me my horse is badly behaved and needs serious work... we had a short argument because Lucky doesn't do that with me. Which leads me to believe he's either testing or its something the boyfriend is doing wrong. I am now getting serious attitude from the boyfriend about how "bad" my horse is...

    Any thoughts or opinions? Its starting to tick me off a bit...
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    Originally Posted by Dresden    
    I tend to be rather blunt too. Which is why I was looking for a nicer way than how I would phrase it on my own lol. After reading your posts I should've known you are even blunter than I. What was I thinking ;) We live together and share expenses so while Lucky is my horse, its a tiny bit more complicated than just "he's mine, shut up". The boyfriend thinks he needs to go to a trainer. I would rather invest in lessons to improve both of us (or even the 2 of them if boyfriend wished) because Lucky doesn't need to be sent off. Not clicking won't be solved by a trainer. I'm rambling. I'm sorry. My frustration over fighting with the boy about the horse is getting to me. Thank you for the advice. I always feel special when certain people here comment on my threads and its not entirely negative :)

    And he will be offended. But he's an adult. He will deal. His whole family is like that with the horse thing. They backyard bred worthless horses for awhile so they know it all. One of their train wrecks is the horse I came off of resulting in a severe concussion. If that's a well behaved horse I will take Lucky any day! We've already gone a few rounds about the bit I ride Lucky in as they seem to think all horses should be in small twisted wire curb bits. They treat me like a moron when it comes to horses because I grew up riding qh's(always stated with an air of disdain). Okay now I'm just ranting. Sorry about that.
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    Maybeeeeee, your boyfriend is frustrated that he can't ride Lucky as well as you?

    To me, I wouldn't consider that bad behavior, but my version of bad is bucking, rearing, bolting, etc. If I saw someone having trouble turning a horse that was testing them my automatic reaction would be: That person needs lessons. Not wanting to turn and stopping at the gate, reminds me of stuff a pony would do to a kid at a show.

    As for telling your boyfriend...
    You could tell him that you're not going to waste money taking your horse to trainer for something you have don't any problems with. And if he thinks it's that big of a deal then he take lessons on Lucky.
        09-18-2011, 01:35 PM
    Did Lucky get the better of your boyfriend at any stage? I trail rode with many people riding Walkers and I noticed there often seemed to be a tremendous amount of ego among the riders, especially guys.
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        09-18-2011, 01:44 PM
    Originally Posted by twh    
    Did Lucky get the better of your boyfriend at any stage? I trail rode with many people riding Walkers and I noticed there often seemed to be a tremendous amount of ego among the riders, especially guys.
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    Oh yes I would say Lucky won most of the battles and possibly the war ;) And I have seen the same ego from the Walking horse folks around here.

    Also yes, it's very possible that he's frustrated because Lucky does better for me. I imagine that wounds his male pride quite a bit. Whitetrashwarmblood, that's exactly how the behavior seemed to me, like a stubborn pony pulling one over on a kid! And to be perfectly honest, my boyfriends little fit reminded me of a little kid too... ;)
        09-18-2011, 01:50 PM
    What breed is Lucky? I take it he isn't a TWH. What sort of battles did Lucky win?

    You might want to point out to your BF that the techniques used to ride Walkers these days are not generally adopted with most training methods for other breeds, and if Lucky is working well with you then to send him to a trainer is money thrown away. Does the BF want to ride him regularly for some reason?
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        09-18-2011, 01:52 PM
    Originally Posted by whitetrashwarmblood    

    As for telling your boyfriend...
    You could tell him that you're not going to waste money taking your horse to trainer for something you have don't any problems with.
    This is funny. Your boyfriend wants you to take your horse to the trainer so he can ride him - when he doesn't ride him! (male ego)

    I think your horse is really smart and has his number! Is it bad behavior, yeah, kinda bratty but I think normal for most, especially with different riders. Horses are smart that way in figuring out their riders. I would just ignore it and keep riding your horse. Oh, and just keep your boyfriend off of him. If it gets too much tell your boyfriend not to worry about it and that you will take care of it, honey.... (I'm so bad.)
        09-18-2011, 02:08 PM
    Twh, Lucky is a quarter horse. As for battles, he turned the way he wanted to when he wanted to, he trotted over to visit me at the rail while the boyfriend tried to get him to move on, he succeeded in trotting around at least one barrel(he's not a barrel horse but he loves to pretend he is), he yanked the reins out of the boyfriends hands, he was apparently a total brat. Now again from the ground it appeared to me that my boyfriend was turning him so I didn't know he was trying to make Lucky go straight and I thought he asked Lucky to trot around the barrel. By all appearances he appeared to be in control except when lucky pulled the reins the one time. The boyfriend says he did not ask for any of these turns.

    My boyfriend wants the ability to hop on him once a week or every two weeks just for fun. He doesn't like to ride much but would like to be able to every now and then.

    I agree, Bailey! Lucky has his number for sure! And the male ego is out of control! He can't stand that a girl can control this horse when he can't. I'm also a small girl (barely 5 ft tall) and he's a big guy so that bugs him too. Lol love the advice, Bailey ;)
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        09-18-2011, 02:21 PM
    Sounds like Lucky was having a ball with him! Your BF must be an extremely quiet rider if you didn't figure out Lucky was turning when he wanted him going straight. I'm surprised your BF didn't go back to tried and true TWH methods. What bit do you use on Lucky?
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        09-18-2011, 02:31 PM
    I don't think it is bad horse behavior. Yes they could be more polite nd just do what the rider wants but I think that they are entitled to it. Okay lets see they are animals that carry people on their backs and don't complain about it. If somebody you didn't know just walked up to through this heavy leather thing on your back and climbed up would you be happy? I always try to look at situations through my horses eyes. And I know I wouldn't be happy with it I would be the mare that gave all the other mares a bad name.

    but my horse does that too because he wants to be ridden by somebody that knows what they are doing. So to find out who those riders are he tests them. Not really doing much just takes a little bit to trot and canter and he likes to cut his corners. But I totally don't find anything wrong with it as long s the horse isn't putting the rider in any danger. (ex: bucking rearing bolting. . . )
        09-18-2011, 02:32 PM
    Lol yeah I think Lucky had a grand time.

    I use a d ring french link. And no the bf is not quiet. It looked to me like the rein the direction he was turning was stretched tight, quite tight. When I tried to suggest maybe he was inadvertantly cueing him to turn by having one rein too short I got a ton of attitude and "I know what am I doing, don't tell me how to ride."

    I don't know what TWH methods are...
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