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        11-27-2013, 01:26 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Would you report this?

    Hi everyone,

    I boarded my horse at a facility for a little over a month before I moved her to a safer environment. The description below is not the only reason I moved her but one of the main ones. I'm wondering if I'm overreacting? Is this actually a concern? Are my facts right about water consumption and grazing? If I do report it I will be sending this kind of letter to animal welfare. Please be honest, I'm new to the world of horse boarding and I'm not sure if this kind of set up is normal. I feel these horses are in danger mainly because of contaminated water. The other boarders are mainly out of town so I don't believe that they notice the concerns because most of them visit less than once a month. Is this none of my business because I'm no longer boarding there? Uhg, opinions please :)

    Also, when I say small pasture in the letter I'd guess it's about 3-4 acres. I'm not certain though so I won't be stating that in the letter if I do report this.

    The letter

    15+ horses are kept in a small pasture with the only access to water being a dugout pond which is frozen during the winter and dirty in the summer. They have a watering troff in the "feed pen" that they are let into between the hours of 9am-5pm. The average horse drinks between 5 - 10 gallons of water throughout the day. Only having access to fresh water for 7 hours out of the day is simply not enough especially when the horses are occupied eating during those 7 hours.

    The dugout is my main concern; the water is dirty in the warm seasons and frozen in the winter. When the snow melts and when it rains the dugout is contaminated by the large pile of manure sitting at the top of the pasture. The horses are often found standing on top of the manure pile as it is in the pasture with them. Since it is winter I don't believe this is an immediate hazard to the horses but once spring comes the water will be very dangerous for them to consume from the manure contamination. The manure pile is up hill from the dugout and there has been a trench created so all the water drains into the dugout.

    It is recommended that a horse has 2 acres of grazing land per year if grazing is accompanied with hay and other feed. With 15+ horses in the small pasture they do not have access to enough grazing land to sufficiently nurture them.
         
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        11-27-2013, 01:57 PM
      #2
    Trained
    Totally not overreacting!
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        11-27-2013, 02:00 PM
      #3
    Showing
    The water contamination is a real concern, but if the horses are getting fed hay and are keeping a good weight, that's a non-issue.
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        11-27-2013, 02:01 PM
      #4
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DancingArabian    
    Totally not overreacting!
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    Thank you! After writing it out again I'm getting more and more upset about the problems that those horses could incure.
         
        11-27-2013, 02:03 PM
      #5
    Foal
    Do either of you have thoughts on the size of the pasture? Would that be an issue? There were 18 horses the day I left and it's pretty crammed.

    Haha, I have aquariums and I know that you need one gallon of water for every inch of fish... So this pasture looks way over stocked in my eyes but I'm not sure if that's a concern with horses.
         
        11-27-2013, 02:08 PM
      #6
    Showing
    The amount of horses allowed per acre depends entirely on the local zoning laws. Since I'm in a high density agricultural zone, I can have a lot more horses on my property than I'd even consider. They zoned it that way for the beef cattle farmers in the area.

    She could very well be breaking local zoning laws concerning the amount of animals per acre, but if they're well fed and appear healthy otherwise AC isn't the organization to contact about that particular issue, the local zoning board would be.
         
        11-27-2013, 02:16 PM
      #7
    Foal
    Thanks for the information, I think I will focus more on the water contamination for now and hopefully that gets dealt with and if they see an issue with how many horses are in the pasture they might just report it to local zoning. *fingers crossed*
         
        11-27-2013, 02:20 PM
      #8
    Yearling
    Just a simple answer to your question, would I report this?
    No I absolutely would not.
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        11-27-2013, 02:42 PM
      #9
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Roux    
    Just a simple answer to your question, would I report this?
    No I absolutely would not.
    Thanks for your input Roux, that's why I asked here because I'm on the fence so I'm happy to get mixed reviews so I can make the best decision.

    I realize my letter is a bit scattered so I had some help rewriting it with a family member who is better with words than I am!

    This is what it looks like now but I'm still unsure if I will be reporting it.

    I have two main concerns about a local boarding facility.

    My first concern is the horses’ water supply. 15+ horses are kept in a small pasture with the only access to water being a dugout pond which is frozen during the winter and dirty in the summer. They have a watering trough in the "feed pen" that they are let into between the hours of 9am-5pm. The average horse drinks between 5 - 10 gallons of water throughout the day. Only having access to fresh water for 7 hours out of the day is simply not enough especially when the horses are occupied eating hay during those 7 hours. The facility also keeps a large pile of manure at the top of a hill in the pasture. The horses are often found standing on top of the manure pile. Since it is winter I don't believe this is an immediate hazard. In the spring, when the snow melts or if it rains, the dugout pond will become contaminated by the manure pile. The owner of the boarding facility has dug a trench so that the water drains downhill, however, this drains into the dugout.

    My second concern is that a horse requires 2 acres of grazing land per year if grazing is accompanied with hay and other feed. With 15+ horses in the small pasture they do not have access to enough grazing land to sufficiently nurture them.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this post everyone :)
         
        11-27-2013, 02:46 PM
      #10
    Yearling
    I wouldn't report this either.
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