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        03-26-2012, 12:40 AM
      #21
    Trained
    I have a feeling you are exaggerating the "boxing half his mane"-bridle paths differ by discipline. Some tend to be longer, which may be what you are seeing. It is hair. It grows.
         
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        03-26-2012, 12:41 AM
      #22
    Weanling
    Lol who cares about having the "right" to be upset, if I were you that would down right piss me off. But I also have a weird thing about long bridle paths because my sister does this all the time.

    She gave her horses to me because she no longer has time for them, but will show up randomly to visit. To help me out with mucking, grooming, or working them? Nah, she'll just show up and clip half their manes off and leave. Lol we don't show or anything! It irritates me because I prefer just an inch or two. And then their hair grows so fast I have to decide if I should keep it trimmed or let it grow into a little mohawk :p

    But ultimately if you really enjoy this horse, I don't think you should try to do anything about it. I think the owner still just wants to maintain a certain level of control and it's only the mane after all... The abrupt change in feed would concern me more. I personally would have a discussion about that because that could cause problems.
         
        03-26-2012, 12:44 AM
      #23
    Foal
    You are paying board and other expenses why don't you own your own horse????
         
        03-26-2012, 01:22 AM
      #24
    Foal
    See and I just had the exact thing happen to me, but the other way around. I lease my mare to a girl and she decided to randomly cut six inches off her tail and about 2 inches off her forelock (squaring it off) and did not consult me at all. I know it's just hair and it will grow back, but I happen to love my mare's pretty forelock and thick, long tail and there was absolutely no reason for it. Plus, she flat out just does not have the right to do it without my permission. She is my horse. She has my permission to cut only her mane and only for shows. Period.

    There's been more and more things that I keep finding out where they are making decisions and acting as if she is their's and I don't appreciate it as an owner. Some of these things are possibly pretty serious (they were offered meds to get my mare through hoof soreness at a show, and even though they made the right decision and said no, the point is that they don't have the right to make that decision at all and now that their farrier trimmed her wrong they're trying to tell me she may need corrective shoeing). The problem is that we're rarely at the barn at the same time (but I'm always there at least a couple times a week) and there's been very little communication between us, the BO has always been the inbetween and not very reliable at it at all.

    But back to the point, the only reason I would ever consult them about anything that I do with my mare is if it may interfere with them riding or showing her, but still it would be more to inform them of it than to ask. With that in mind though, I also realize they are paying to lease her (and I need the financial help for the moment, covering board for two horses in this economy is tough right now) and would not do anything that was not necessary that would hinder them using her as agreed upon. So I can see where it might irritate you to an extent, but if it doesn't actually interfere with you showing him then you really have no right to say she shouldn't trim his anything. You might be able to mention it to her, let her know what your plans are and what you want, but she has the final say so.
         
        03-26-2012, 09:05 AM
      #25
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BossMare781    
    See and I just had the exact thing happen to me, but the other way around. I lease my mare to a girl and she decided to randomly cut six inches off her tail and about 2 inches off her forelock (squaring it off) and did not consult me at all. I know it's just hair and it will grow back, but I happen to love my mare's pretty forelock and thick, long tail and there was absolutely no reason for it. Plus, she flat out just does not have the right to do it without my permission. She is my horse. She has my permission to cut only her mane and only for shows. Period.

    There's been more and more things that I keep finding out where they are making decisions and acting as if she is their's and I don't appreciate it as an owner. Some of these things are possibly pretty serious (they were offered meds to get my mare through hoof soreness at a show, and even though they made the right decision and said no, the point is that they don't have the right to make that decision at all and now that their farrier trimmed her wrong they're trying to tell me she may need corrective shoeing). The problem is that we're rarely at the barn at the same time (but I'm always there at least a couple times a week) and there's been very little communication between us, the BO has always been the inbetween and not very reliable at it at all.

    But back to the point, the only reason I would ever consult them about anything that I do with my mare is if it may interfere with them riding or showing her, but still it would be more to inform them of it than to ask. With that in mind though, I also realize they are paying to lease her (and I need the financial help for the moment, covering board for two horses in this economy is tough right now) and would not do anything that was not necessary that would hinder them using her as agreed upon. So I can see where it might irritate you to an extent, but if it doesn't actually interfere with you showing him then you really have no right to say she shouldn't trim his anything. You might be able to mention it to her, let her know what your plans are and what you want, but she has the final say so.
    Exactly - owner=owner, lessor = NOT owner.
         
        03-26-2012, 09:19 AM
      #26
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BossMare781    
    See and I just had the exact thing happen to me, but the other way around. I lease my mare to a girl and she decided to randomly cut six inches off her tail and about 2 inches off her forelock (squaring it off) and did not consult me at all. I know it's just hair and it will grow back, but I happen to love my mare's pretty forelock and thick, long tail and there was absolutely no reason for it. Plus, she flat out just does not have the right to do it without my permission. She is my horse. She has my permission to cut only her mane and only for shows. Period.

    There's been more and more things that I keep finding out where they are making decisions and acting as if she is their's and I don't appreciate it as an owner. Some of these things are possibly pretty serious (they were offered meds to get my mare through hoof soreness at a show, and even though they made the right decision and said no, the point is that they don't have the right to make that decision at all and now that their farrier trimmed her wrong they're trying to tell me she may need corrective shoeing). The problem is that we're rarely at the barn at the same time (but I'm always there at least a couple times a week) and there's been very little communication between us, the BO has always been the inbetween and not very reliable at it at all.

    But back to the point, the only reason I would ever consult them about anything that I do with my mare is if it may interfere with them riding or showing her, but still it would be more to inform them of it than to ask. With that in mind though, I also realize they are paying to lease her (and I need the financial help for the moment, covering board for two horses in this economy is tough right now) and would not do anything that was not necessary that would hinder them using her as agreed upon. So I can see where it might irritate you to an extent, but if it doesn't actually interfere with you showing him then you really have no right to say she shouldn't trim his anything. You might be able to mention it to her, let her know what your plans are and what you want, but she has the final say so.
    Not sure what the issue is with communication-in your case or the OP's. We live in a day and age where the majority of people have ready access to a phone, cell, or otherwise, so to me, there is NO excuse for no communication. It goes both ways. IT is as simple as sending a text, email or leaving a VM. This is really NOT rocket science folks. I guarantee if someone was leasing one of mine there would be regular communication, as well as visits. In the end, I, as the owner still have the responsibility to make sure that my animals are safe, and well cared for. It is not up to anyone else.
         
        03-26-2012, 10:26 AM
      #27
    Started
    It is her horse, and yes she has the right to do whatever she wants with him without asking or telling you. I do, however, understand why you feel angry with this, I think I wouldn't be able to help feeling the same way. (Now I may be wrong and I don't want to offend by making statements I cannot be sure about, but it's just what came to mind while reading the thread)
    Seeing you take so much care of this horse and have the impression she never does, in your heart you feel he's actually yours (although legally it isn't the case), so you feel the way a owner would feel if the lessee came and did somethign drastic without notice.

    Now this may be totally untrue, but I think that's how I'd feel if I were in your situation.

    Out of curiosity, how old is the girl who owns him?
         
        03-26-2012, 01:03 PM
      #28
    Yearling
    I am 23 and she is I want to say 27?
         
        03-26-2012, 01:34 PM
      #29
    Started
    I don't know why, but I was expecting younger for some reason, but seeing that she's an adult that should be responsible and mature at that age, would it be possible for you two to try and communicate on the horse in question? I don't know if you've tried and I understand it might be difficult if she's not willing to cooperate, but I think if you both discussed his care over and said what your plans were with him, things might be more comprehensive and smooth between you. :)
         
        03-26-2012, 02:11 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    I thought that we did when we signed the lease that we had both agreed upon, but I guess that we never touched on the topic of grooming and clipping because I never really thought that something like this would come up. Last year when I started to lease him his mane was longer then it was up until she just pulled it a few days ago. I think that is also why I am so confused.
         

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