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    01-22-2010, 08:10 PM
Wrong time of year?

I am trying to sell a mare that is in need of a tune up and a refresher in manners. I would have this done, but my trainer said even after, she would still be for a experienced rider. I'm a begginer as well as my kids. I have a thread in critique with my ad, but am I trying to market her that wrong time of year?
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    01-22-2010, 08:27 PM
It is hard to sell a horse in the middle of winter or in the fall. Most people want to buy a horse in the spring when the weather is turning for the better and the grass is sprouting so that they can ride and don't have to pay for as much feed as they would in the winter. Unfortunately, most people who look on advertising sites such as craigslist and equihits or whatever either are like you and looking for a beginner friendly horse or are looking for a specific horse that would fit a specific discipline. You may be marketing her in the wrong areas. Does she buck when you try to get into the saddle or just move away/try to avoid you? Have you been able to ride her at all or did the trainer ride her?

If you don't mind me asking, what area of OK are you located in?

The fact is, in this area, I don't think that you will be able to get your asking price for an unregistered mare with issues. You may have to kinda bite the bullet and take a cut in price to get her into a home that fits her.
    01-22-2010, 08:52 PM
Walks away. The first and only ride we've had with her was 1wk after bringing her homein early Oct. She did wonderfully up til my husband tried to mount and she started walking off. When he got on she started fighting then took off and bucked a little. Once she got it out though she was fine. I rode for about an hour after that w/no issues until she was done and then she started fight me and I got off ASAP. At this point I truely think that the biggest issue is she knows she's in charge. I called a female trainer out (Molly seems to prefer womes) and she choose not to get on because we don't have any kind of enclosure to ride in and since she ran off on the hubs she didn't want to take that chance. She spent over an hour trying though. At one point Molly tried to bite and she picked up that back leg to kick at her. The trainer thinks that she would make someone a good horse with the work, but not a beginner. I am sorry to say that I did agree. We live in central OK. I might add that at the time of the first ride she hadn't had her vet appointment. We wound up having to have her teeth floated because her back ones were grown up and she was a little under weight. My trainer said that that could definitely have played a facter into her behavior and my husband thinks that he may have had the saddle positioned to far back. I really would love to have someone go ahead and get on her just to see what happens, is that wrong?
    01-22-2010, 09:16 PM
No, that isn't wrong but you need someone who isn't afraid to let her know they are in charge get on her. The reason why I was asking you where you were located is because if you are close to me (in Higgins TX) I might be able to ride her a couple of times and kinda see what you are working with. If you aren't very close, you might consider looking for ranch hands or feedlot cowboys who are looking for horses. My brother used to work in a feedlot and would take in "problem" horses then spend 30 days on them and then re-sell them when they got over their problems. The only bad thing about that though, it trying to pick through and sort out the good cowboys from the bad ones; and there is a crapload of bad ones.
    01-22-2010, 09:59 PM
There are so many things that could effect her behavior. You've handled one, her teeth, but there are several others that were mentioned and some that haven't been.

Saddle fit, bit type, the amount and type of feed, whether she is stalled or turned out, right down to a horse that is pretty smart and knows how to take advantage of a newbie or how a new rider handles her. From what I've read, I don't think that your trainer was the best choice as either - sorry.

No matter what the reason, and she may just be a horse for an experienced rider, she is the wrong horse for you - which you already know. If you can't sell her through advertising, you may want to wait 2 months and send her through an auction. In the meanwhile, try getting a good rider to work with her.

BTW, many auctions have riders who will ride your horse through the ring for you and show the horse in a good light.
    01-23-2010, 12:54 PM
It was determines that the saddle had an appropraite fit, but she thought the bit was too harsh. At the time I was feeding her 14% nugget and have since dropped her to 12% and hay. She was a little under weight when we got her. I did check with the vet on what to feed her and how much. She is turned out. At this time we only have a small barn for her to get in out of the weather. I do respect your opinion and While I love my trainer as my riding instructor. I do see were your coming from. I would have loved to have seen what would have happened had she have just gotten on, but as a mother I could also understand her reasons for not.

We have been talking about it and have decided that if we can't sell her we will wait until we can afford to send her for retraining. But because she seems to have an aversion to men I really want a man to retrain her. This is technically my second horse. My first was a 2yr old gelding that my hubby bought me right after we married, but we had a guy train him and he was amazing and my Sunny was so easy to handle. Had to sell him due to pregnancy and life and no ride time. So we think that we will see if he might take on Molly. My only issue now is $$, I spent my alotment on her not thinking that I would need to train her.
My husband has ridden on and off his whole life so if her could ride her for a while until the rest of us aren't so green we could keep her and use her. But he thinks that a trainer needs to deal with her first.
    01-23-2010, 01:02 PM
I think that would probably be best. I hope you are able to find a good trainer that can handle her well and help her to overcome these issues. She is a very pretty mare and I hope she will make you a good horse.
    01-23-2010, 02:35 PM
It sure seems like you are doing the right things for your horse. As far as feed is concerned, 12% can still be a little much for some horses. The amount you feed her is a big consideration. I weigh my horse's feed rather then go by a scoop, that way I can be very accurate on their rations. Since I am off my riding routine for the winter, I only feed Hollywood 1 lb of feed twice per day - and plenty of hay but he is an easy keeper.

I have a new horse in for training that needs weight and all I feed him is 2lb of feed X2. He is gaining weight nicely. All my guys are on 10% protein and plenty of good hay.

As for weighing, I have a scale hanging above the feed bin and it's adjusted to "0" for their buckets. I just add the amount I am feeding for a particular horse to the bucket and I'm done - no mistakes. I'm also critical about the time I feed and I stick to that time within 1/2 an hour twice a day.

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