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View Poll Results: Are you a Rider or a Horseman?
I consider myself a Rider 2 8.33%
I consider myself a Horseman 20 83.33%
I don't consider myself either, I just love horses 2 8.33%
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post #1 of 18 Old 11-19-2008, 06:56 AM Thread Starter
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Are you a rider or a horseman

I was answering in another thread and the question hit me. How many consider themselves riders and how many consider themselves horseman.

What goes into being a horseman and not just a rider?

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining why I'm right.

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post #2 of 18 Old 11-19-2008, 07:36 AM
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I would consider myself a horseman who rides. I think a "rider" just takes a horse and rides... doesnt better themselves or the horse. A horseman is able to care and properly breed good horses. They can do at the very least general first aid on equines, and just has an overall love for the horse


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post #3 of 18 Old 11-19-2008, 07:39 AM
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As for the current moment of time I rate myself as a rider. Though I might change later in time however that is not a definite at this moment of time.



Noobie question, which might help new riders too. What's the difference between the two in your opinion?

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post #4 of 18 Old 11-19-2008, 08:01 AM
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I think a true horseman-woman= finds joy and a sense of fullfilment in working for and finding that partnership between horse and human. It is more than being in the saddle, much more.

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post #5 of 18 Old 11-19-2008, 08:15 AM
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I'm always intrigued by the term "horsemen" since most of the people I know who have horses are women.

Maybe "horseperson" would be better.
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post #6 of 18 Old 11-19-2008, 08:28 AM Thread Starter
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Hello Rooster and welcome to the forum!

I have always considered the word "horseman" just a term and not a gender. I hope you don't read more into it then that (lol).

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I consider a horseman a person who can read and understand horses and then finds a way to work with the horse. This person can work with nearly any horse and bring out the best qualities of that horse, and can get the horse to do some things that a "rider" can't. A horseman has very high expections about what a horse should be able to do and he/she shows a lot of respect towards the horse when reaching for those high expectations.

A rider is a person who might struggle throughout their journey with horses. A rider might make excuses - for themselves and/or their horse. Things like "Oh my horse doesn't like that." or "I can't because <fill in the blank>." This person will always have problem horses because much of the time they create the problems. They are not able to find an effective solution without seeking outside help.

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Well I wouldn't agree with the comment that "rider" is someone who always complain. That is simply not true. I take "rider" as a person who has not achieved the full equestrian knowledge I.e. Tacking, saddle, making his room, mucking etc. (Sorry my horse terminology is not that good). Though they can "ride" a horse pretty good.

There are people who employ people to do the mucking, tacking etc, and all they do is ride and they do ride pretty good.

That's just my opinion, I may or may not be wrong here. However I am certainly not wrong to say "riders" are not generally "complaint freaks".

Rooster, alot of men ride horses in Middle East and Asian countries, more women ride in western countries I guess. Though as iridie rightly said, it's just a term and not gender divided.

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Well I wouldn't agree with the comment that "rider" is someone who always complain.

That's just my opinion, I may or may not be wrong here. However I am certainly not wrong to say "riders" are not generally "complaint freaks".
Complaining is different than making excuses.

I can complain about the weather (and I do!) - Oh it's too cold outside and I hate it when my fingers & toes freeze! (I live in Wisconsin.) - but I do not use that as an excuse to not work with my horse. I find a way to make it comfortable for me and my horse. Whereas a "rider" might use the same complaint as an excuse to stay cozy warm in the house and not go out in the cold to work with the horse.

So a horseman and a rider can both be "complaint freaks", but the horseman will still do what needs to be done without making excuses.

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post #10 of 18 Old 11-19-2008, 11:39 AM
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I see where you coming from. I see the difference now. No doubt allot of people rating themselves as "horseman" instead of "riders". .

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