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        11-20-2009, 05:53 AM
      #1
    Foal
    your opinion

    What in your opinion, makes a good horseperson?
         
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        11-20-2009, 07:53 AM
      #2
    Started
    Hmmmm...

    Common Sense
    Kindness
    Patience
    Knowledge
    Experience
    A willingness to keep learning, from your horses and from other people
         
        11-20-2009, 09:47 AM
      #3
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scoutrider    
    A willingness to keep learning, from your horses and from other people
    I like that one!
    I'd also say a good horseperson is someone that can work with any horse at any time and make it look good. A horseperson can deal with the problems that the horse presents and immediately change the way they are working with the horse to make the problem a non-issue.
         
        11-20-2009, 11:41 AM
      #4
    Trained
    I think horseperson and horseman are two different terms. A horseperson is someone who has the financial resources to own a horse. They generally have limited or no experience and while eager and well-meaning make a lot of mistakes. Many horsepeople spend vast amounts of money on gimmicks and training videos and lessons (often from other horsepeople only slightly more educated than themselves).

    A horseman (the "man" is not gender specific I just hate the term horsewoman) has already gone though the horseperson phase and has a deeper understanding of horses and how they think. They don't try to pin human failings on horses like lying, cheating, meanness and insanity. The horseman realizes that horses are not going to "love" a human like humans love horses and accepts that fact. They realize that horses do what they do to try to get through life without discomfort and in safety. They look critically at others and decide who they want to learn from and emulate and then go to the lenghts necessary to do that. A horseman has a horse that is almost unnoticable because they are in the right place at the right time doing the right thing correctly. When a horseman disciplines his horse he does so with as much force as needed but with as little force as possible and at a time that will likely solve the problem. I could go on longer but this is enough for now.

    Horsepeople outnumber horseman by about 100 to 1.
         
        11-20-2009, 12:32 PM
      #5
    Foal
    Scoutrider, and gottaride; totally agreeing with you!!! Kevinshorses; I think I pretty much agree with what you are saying. I say horseperson to be politically correct. The only thing I really disagree with in your post, is I think some horses can love some humans. The only thing I would add to these posts so far is the ability to look to yourself, to see what you are doing wrong to cause the horse to misunderstand you. The ability to not hit out in anger. The ability to see/ hear what the horse is telling you.
         
        11-20-2009, 12:34 PM
      #6
    Super Moderator
    Patience.
         
        11-20-2009, 12:43 PM
      #7
    Foal
    And the ability to think like a horse; put yourself in the horses shoes. Its not all about dominance and submission; its the ability to communicate your wishes in a way that makes sense to the horse.
         
        11-20-2009, 01:09 PM
      #8
    Showing
    I grew up saying mail-person, business-person etc. Went to too many NOW rallies to stop now
    I can't see the difference between a horse-person and a horse-man, but I understand your logic Kevin.
    To me it all comes down to horsemanship. Horsemanship is the pursuit of knowledge about horses. Some people take a lifetime to learn it others with more natural gifts can be proficient in a shorter time. The trick is, to never stop taking in that knowledge. Never think you know it all. There's always some young filly or colt who can teach you something new. Advances are always being made in the care of horses in both medical and behaviour fields.
    Its not just the riding. I've seen 15 year olds who could out ride any lifelong cowboy. Maybe it would be better to ask, are you a cowboy or a horseman?
    I am in no way a cowboy/girl. I grew up on a ranch/farm, been around cattle since I was born. No way do I want to be around them as an adult.
    I do like to think of myself as a horsewoman (although I would never call myself one). One that doesn't know everything but plans on spending her life pursuing that knowledge.
         
        11-20-2009, 01:24 PM
      #9
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Vidaloco    
    I grew up saying mail-person, business-person etc. Went to too many NOW rallies to stop now
    I can't see the difference between a horse-person and a horse-man, but I understand your logic Kevin.
    To me it all comes down to horsemanship. Horsemanship is the pursuit of knowledge about horses.
    I would say that horsemanship is the application of knowledge about horses.
         
        11-20-2009, 01:28 PM
      #10
    Banned
    Someone who can tell what the horse is feeling and thinking, and respect that.
         

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