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post #1 of 24 Old 04-11-2010, 01:31 AM Thread Starter
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you're not a real rider unless you ride western? What?!

I just had a photographer contact me at the end of March. He said he had read my modeling profile and was interested in doing a shoot that included my horse and was wondering if she had any limitations.

I replied that I was interested and the only limitations were no western themes and no nudity. No western themes because she's trained as an English pleasure horse and the western seat gives me severe pain in the damages nerves in the base of my spine (car accident when I was little).

He came back at me basically telling me how English riding/tack was useless for any "quality" images and told me to "take better care of yourself and you can be a real rider in a real western saddle".

wow some people just amaze me with their close mindedness.

I sent his emails to the moderators of the site for review and didn't respond back to him. But his email kind of ticked me. First of all, I've always ridden English and I've always preferred English. I only realized I couldn't ride western at all (after the accident) during a camp that only had western tack. I was send home and confined to a bed for a week because of the pain and it's basically doctors orders to stay out of a western saddle. Secondly, the car accident wasn't my fault, I was asleep in the backseat when I was 10 years old and we were rear ended by one of those big boxy moving truck looking trucks not the semi's but the one piece big haulers.

I went through my profile and noted that it even said Caleigh and I were not available for western themes. That tells me the photographer didn't bother to read past "I own a Clydesdale mare that is available for shoots". Out of all the shoots I've done with horses even before I bought Caleigh it has never been a problem that I only ride English or bareback. I really wonder why he flew off the handle. I've bolded the importance of not riding western now so if anyone skips over piece of my hiring profile they'll hopefully at least read the bold bits.

Sorry just had to get it off my chest, it was bugging me a bit.

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post #2 of 24 Old 04-11-2010, 01:54 AM
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That's just silly! I would think that you'd be able to get more quality shots by being english anyway since that looks more natural and sophisticated, in my mind at least! Goodness, some people just need a smack upside the head. But whatevs, if he was that irritable and rude about your inability to ride in a western saddle, he probably would have been a yucky person to work with. It sounds like you're better off without him. For sure.

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yeah, I'm pretty picky about who I work with. They have to have positive feedback from the models I contact through the photographers previous work. I'm on a general modeling site and in my profile it says my animals are available to be in shoots and the limitations are no western or nudity. I actually normally get photographers asking me if I have those fancy English show outfits with chaps and the whole look. I have to say "sorry I don't but I could put together a really neat different outfit". It's getting to where I should probably buy some because it's a common request.

The only other photographer who asked me if she could go western asked if bareback was an option, he just didn't want english tack so I threw a leather halter on her, some cloth reins and rode bareback. She did fine sadly he didn't give me my pictures and "conveniently" disappeared off the site about 2 weeks later.
I'm just surprised this guy made such a big deal out of it. I guess he really really wanted a western horse...oops not my fault he didn't read my whole animal section.

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I'd have told him to kiss the fattest part of my horse's ass...

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I'd have told him to kiss the fattest part of my horse's ass...

Agreed.

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That's totally stupid! Hell, if anything the english riders are the "real" riders...
I've recently pretty much switched back to riding western after doing western for years and trying english out for awhile..it truly gave me a new respect for it, those saddles definitely aren't helping keep you all on your horses at all! I found it to require a lot more skill and the horses a lot more intelligent and challenging.
That guy's a moron. English tack is better-looking anyway
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That's totally stupid! Hell, if anything the english riders are the "real" riders...
I've recently pretty much switched back to riding western after doing western for years and trying english out for awhile..it truly gave me a new respect for it, those saddles definitely aren't helping keep you all on your horses at all! I found it to require a lot more skill and the horses a lot more intelligent and challenging.
That guy's a moron. English tack is better-looking anyway
Whoa slow down, western rider here, and that just totally offended.
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If read more closely you would see that I am one as well and have been my whole life..
I feel I have the right to poke a little bit of fun
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hahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha. SORRY. Over now XD

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well, as a photographer myself, all I can say is that if he can't get 'quality' images shooting someone with English tack, then he's a pretty poor photographer!! What an idiot.

I'd love to ride in a Western saddle because it looks so **** comfortable and really secure. Rocky Pony, you're right about English saddles not doing much to keep you in them - they don't. It's all too easy to go piling off the front of them (a friend of a friend recently landed on the pommel of her English saddle and split her pubic bone, it took her two hours to get off the horse)

From a photographic point, Western and English tack both have their merits - Western looks so very, very cool and English tack is just so effortlessly elegant and classy. I'd happily photograph both and the posibilities with each of them are endless.

Drafts4ever, if I ever make it over to Washington, I'd happily do a shoot with you, lol
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