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        04-25-2011, 08:45 AM
      #21
    Green Broke
    Personally I would keep the divider in when trailering the horse. Even though it is more confined, it is easier for them to keep their balance because they can brace against it. It is also safer because the can't be thrown side to side if you have to do evasive manuvers. He probably was still worked up after the show and that caused him to load badly.

    We have hauled multiple horses in a stock trailer and usually always tie them up. Exceptions would be a young horse like a yearling or a horse that hasn't been taught to tie. We have gone several hundreds of miles with them like that and didn't have any problems.

    A lot of problems that horses have when traveling are from the way we drive. People can forget they are back there and drive like they are in a car, which tosses the horses around. If you can drive like you have a cup of water on the dash and you can't spill a drop, the horses will have a good trip.
         
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        04-25-2011, 10:47 AM
      #22
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by usandpets    
    A lot of problems that horses have when traveling are from the way we drive. People can forget they are back there and drive like they are in a car, which tosses the horses around. If you can drive like you have a cup of water on the dash and you can't spill a drop, the horses will have a good trip.

    That's exactly how I drive! I've gotten some ribbing about being such an old lady behind the wheel when I have a trailer but I've ridden with horses back there before. It's like a popcorn popper sometimes!

    My dad taught me to drive so defensively. He said it there is a light up ahead assume you are going to stop, that sort of thing.
         
        04-25-2011, 10:55 AM
      #23
    Green Broke
    I have the exact same problem with my mare. No matter what you do, she always tries to shoot back when you go to tie her. So...

    MAKE SURE HE IS CLOSED IN BEFORE TYING HIM UP! Someone was stupid enough to try to tie my mare before the gate was closed behind her (I have a ramp) and she about strangled herself even though it was a safety snap.

    I took my divider out. Still didn't help. Sounds like your boy just needs to eat all his meals on the trailer until he figures out that he doesn't need to shoot back out.
         
        04-25-2011, 05:46 PM
      #24
    Trained
    Ugh, now I'm confused again. I was all set to take the divider out and let him stand however he wanted. Now I don't know. He's regularly ridden in 4 other trailers, 2 slants and 2 straights, without a single issue. Why do horses always have to throw curveballs into everything?

    I do drive like an old lady when he's back there. It was only my second time ever driving a truck and trailer, so I'm currently doing things very cautiously. I can't do anything about rough roads, but did what I could to assure him a smooth trip.

    We're doing a XC clinic on Sunday which is about a 40 mile trip. Guess I'll find out if it was a one time thing. Maybe I should rub beet pulp all over the walls!
         
        04-25-2011, 07:15 PM
      #25
    Started
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    Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
    Ugh, now I'm confused again. I was all set to take the divider out and let him stand however he wanted. Now I don't know. He's regularly ridden in 4 other trailers, 2 slants and 2 straights, without a single issue. Why do horses always have to throw curveballs into everything?

    I do drive like an old lady when he's back there. It was only my second time ever driving a truck and trailer, so I'm currently doing things very cautiously. I can't do anything about rough roads, but did what I could to assure him a smooth trip.

    We're doing a XC clinic on Sunday which is about a 40 mile trip. Guess I'll find out if it was a one time thing. Maybe I should rub beet pulp all over the walls!
    My friend has a 17hh Dutch Warmblood and a trailer that he is pretty much squashed into. When they first got him he would do the same thing your horse is doing, but you can imagine the power behind that thing when he shot out.. He really did shoot out . At first they had to have 2-3 people to get him in there, usually 2, one to lead him in there (with food) and one to close the ramp, they didn't worry about the bum chain till the ramp was up, just because he is so big in the float(trailer) and would lean right back against the chain.

    What she did was exactly as described in the above paragraph ^, he has now figured out that if he stands in the float tied up with the back door closed, that he gets a treat... She now has a 17hh Dutch Warmblood that self loads into a cramped trailer with only her around.

    He could have been still worked up from the show and not ready to get in the trailer yet, that's possible. Some floats look smaller than they are from the shape or the colour or the layout etc, my mare who was a self loader, and I mean self load as in you couldn't clean out the float in her paddock or she would load herself up and expect to go somewhere. We hired a float one day, and the company colour was bright orange, so of course the trailer was bright orange *HeadDesk*. She was rearing up on the ramp and shooting backwards and turning around and stomping on the ramp, but once she was in she was fine. Poor girl even smacked her head on the roof during one of her ramp rears.

    I would say that if you really just cannot get him in there with the partition in no matter what you try, then take it out. Use that as a last resort, my neighbour uses it for his race horses, I used it for Mitch, they were fine. But as I said in another post, some horses have been known to pre-anticipate the corners, and that's a problem in itself.
         
        04-26-2011, 12:11 PM
      #26
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
    Ugh, now I'm confused again. I was all set to take the divider out and let him stand however he wanted. Now I don't know. He's regularly ridden in 4 other trailers, 2 slants and 2 straights, without a single issue. Why do horses always have to throw curveballs into everything?

    I do drive like an old lady when he's back there. It was only my second time ever driving a truck and trailer, so I'm currently doing things very cautiously. I can't do anything about rough roads, but did what I could to assure him a smooth trip.

    We're doing a XC clinic on Sunday which is about a 40 mile trip. Guess I'll find out if it was a one time thing. Maybe I should rub beet pulp all over the walls!
    MyBoyPuck - there is nothing wrong with taking the divider out, seriously.

    Someone used the analagy of they needing the walls *divider* to balance on, and I think that's hogwash.

    I know many people who haul their horses in Stock Trailers, that have NO dividers and guess what, they do just fine!

    I had a horse, my first official owned horse, when I was backin HighSchool I was given an APHA Colt. When it came time to teach him to trailer and load up and off, he would have panick attacks when my Dad and I would get him loaded up.

    I cannot remember at what point, where my Dad came up with the idea to take out the divider - but he did, and then Iko was ok. We took out the divider and hauled him backwards actually, and he was very happy with that.

    So I would lead him up in the 2 horse strait haul, now converted into a "stock" and I would turn him around where he was facing the loading ramp, and his butt end was facing the front, and tied him up there. He was able to see the door close, and he was able to see the door open when the haul was done.

    He stood quietly, I have no idea why, but it worked.

    I haul Nelson in a stock trailer that I borrow from a friend of mine. He hauls just fine in there without the divider. So I don't get how they need that to "support" themselves. As far as I am aware, the divider was put in, to seperate the 2 horses.
         
        04-26-2011, 02:40 PM
      #27
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
    What's wrong with it is, 1. I travel alone a lot, so I can only be in one place at one time. 2. The point of my post is to find the most comfortable way for my horse to travel. I'm not going to ask him to suck it up standing in a confined straight stall when he can have the whole thing to himself providing it's safe to do so. His comfort is my biggest concern after his safety. Until now he's never had any issues in the other 4 trailers he's been in which makes me think there's something about this one he does not like.
    Just want to mention that there is a lady at my hunt who has taught her horse to load with the lead line tossed over his neck so she can close up the trailer. Would there be a chance that he would be able to do this, or learn how to do this?
         
        04-26-2011, 04:34 PM
      #28
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VelvetsAB    
    Just want to mention that there is a lady at my hunt who has taught her horse to load with the lead line tossed over his neck so she can close up the trailer. Would there be a chance that he would be able to do this, or learn how to do this?
    Yeah, I can just send him in. This trailer has one of those human only escape doors up front, so I was taking advantage of it by leading him in. Technically I was doing it backwards. I know you're supposed to put the butt bar up before tying. Maybe my smarty pants horse was trying to tell me I was doing with wrong.

    As for leaning, when he's standing straight, he puts his entire weight against the back door. In a slant, I don't see any evidence that he uses anything other than his body for leverage. Going to flip a coin Saturday and go from there.

    Thanks for all the input. This is one of those things that is very good to bounce off as many horse people as possible.
         

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