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post #11 of 35 Old 11-17-2010, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohiohorseman View Post
I wasn't seeking legal advice from anyone. I was simply trying to alert the readers of the Forum to the fact that Bison trailers are poorly made and hazardous. The fact is, I have been a practicing attorney for 37 years and probably understand the legalities better than Faye (and despite her pronouncements, the presence or absence of a warranty is not necessarily the end of that discussion).
I thought it was odd that Faye thinks she knows the law so I had to chime in. The good thing is you can pursue it and it won't cost you in legal fees. And as I am sure you know they may settle to avoid a law suit.

Now on a personal note I am making an assumption that you are middle to upper income by your established career??? I am suprised you bought a Bison in the 1st place as it is the low end of trailers instead of something better quality.
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post #12 of 35 Old 11-17-2010, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
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I bought it new and, from all appearances, it was well made. It was only later that I discovered its many deficiencies.
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post #13 of 35 Old 11-24-2010, 07:39 AM
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Well I could see a 10yro trailer having rust etc.But for an axel to break loose. Not good.....Sounds to be that poor quaility parts were used

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post #14 of 35 Old 11-24-2010, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mingiz View Post
Well I could see a 10yro trailer having rust etc.But for an axel to break loose. Not good.....Sounds to be that poor quaility parts were used
We still haven't been told if it was properly maintained.

I think it's interesting that an attorney would come to a public forum to bash anything. I sure know mine wouldn't do something so childish.
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post #15 of 35 Old 11-24-2010, 09:52 AM
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also if it is prooved to be due to the negligance of the owner with poor maintenance then said attorney could find himself in a tad bit of trouble if the comapny find the above comments.

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post #16 of 35 Old 11-24-2010, 10:22 AM
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Does make one wonder, huh? I live where they use gravel during the winter,, all neighboring states use salt and gravel. It is really smart to keep the trailer well maintained and rinsed, especially during winter travel to keep everything from rusting and corroding.
I have bought ten year old trailers used and have never had an issue, and turned down newer trailers because of rust and corrosion, it all depends on how the trailer was maintained during its use. I imagine it can happen that the axle falls off, but if this story is true, and he found all the problems right after he bought it, why not take it back while it was in warranty?
And you guys are right, he has still not mentioned how well maintained it was. Strange that a attorney would come on a public forum and blast a well known company. Of course you notice, this poster is new and only made 6 posts...... Hmmmm. sounds a bit fabricated to me.
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post #17 of 35 Old 11-24-2010, 10:28 AM
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Y'all apparently don't know attorneys as well as I do.

For an attorney to openly bash someone is SOP for them. After all, they're right and whoever they're bashing is wrong, so what's the big deal?

Attorneys generally have extremely large egos, regardless of where they placed in their graduating class. They also live under the assumption that everyone else is beneath them, and stupid into the bargain.

Far too many of them are scofflaws, and think following the letter of the law is for normal mortals, not themselves.

I avoid attorneys like the bubonic plague.
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First, my story that the frame corroded to the point where the axle came loose is completely true and the suggestion that it is "fabricated" is insulting. Second, the trailer was well maintained with the wheel bearings being packed annually, as recommended, and other repairs being made as necessary. As is usually the case, the deficiencies surfaced after the relatively short warranty period had expired, so those repairs were made on my dime. However, the trailer was fully operational, although deteriorating, up to the time that the axle came loose, as I had hauled two adult horses in it just the week before. Third, in response to Faye's continued attempts to give legal advice, I am not at all concerned about criticizing Bison as a manufacturer because (1) everything that I said is true, and truth is always a complete defense to any claim of defamation, and (2) Bison is now out of business (perhaps due to their inferior product), so the comments that Faye chided me about are irrelevant to their business reputation anyway. Fourth, I offered my comments in good faith as a warning to others who might be considering the purchase of a used Bison trailer. And I say again, buy one at your own risk. Finally, none of you know me or my reputation or manner of practice, so your bashing of me simply because I am a lawyer is completely out of line and entirely irrelevant to the discussion.
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post #19 of 35 Old 11-24-2010, 02:32 PM
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Ohiohorseman. If Bison have gone out of business who do you intend to bring a case against then?
if they went bakrupt there is nothing left to get and nothing that you will achieve, you can't exactly make them withdraw thier product as they are not making product anylonger. You can't damage the companies profitability because there is no company. I honestly can't see why you would bother, what do you hope to gain from it?

BTW there is more to maintianing a trailer then an annual wheel bareing change. thats like saying - oh i maintain my car as I top up the oil once a year!

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My biggest question is, if the trailer was so well maintained, then how was this level of corrosion not noticed long before and taken care of? Corrosion of that magnitude doesn't just happen overnight or during the course of one long road trip. So how did you not know that the frame was corroded to that point unless you weren't inspecting your trailer properly? If you weren't inspecting it properly, then you certainly weren't cleaning it properly because in order to clean all the salt off of the undercarriage and frame, you have to either jack it up or lay underneath. Either way, you would have been underneath it and been able to easily see if everything was corroded.

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