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post #1 of 19 Old 10-14-2012, 09:38 AM Thread Starter
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The differences between towing with a gooseneck and a BP.

So just as the title states. I've owned one steel BP that swayed all over the road unloaded. It was a 76' and ended up being way too small for my horses so we sold it.

I now own a 97' Valley 2 horse straight load gooseneck with a ramp and no tack room. I love it but soon it's going to need some work and in the long run I'm thinking it may just be better to sell it and buy something that may suit us more now.

I love the gooseneck and our current trailer, but with it needing work it's going to cost us more to send it to the shop then it would to just sell it and buy another.

The gooseneck to me is alot more stable but then again I've only had the one bad expierence with my old BP and then bought the gooseneck right after.


We have since sold the truck that had the gooseneck in it and bought a new truck. (2005 f250 6.0 powerstroke) and were going to put a GN in it but now I'm thinking if we should just upgrade all together. Next season I would like to show lightly. This year it was a mess when I showed between packing the truck full of all my tack, etc.

I did find one trailer I'm interested in but haven't seen it. Just emailed. It's a Jackson 3 horse slant with a small front tack room with three saddle racks. It is indeed a BP..

I also think maybe a BP would be alot less stress trying to hook up then the GN.

Any input that you'd want to weigh in would be awesome! Also my horses aren't the best of loaders sometimes and I read somewheres awhile back a slant load is alot better especially on the legs then a straight load. My mare was in an accident in a two horse straight load but amazingly still loads fairly well in mine. (When she doesn't want to be a crotchity mare) and my gelding always loaded great in a slant trailer until our last move in one he came out drenched in sweat and freaked out. (The ride was less then 10 minutes)

Pros, cons, opinions? How hard is it to accustom horses to the slant from a normal straight load? I want to keep the trailering expierence as untroublesom as I can because both my horses have issues with it. (Not from me trailering them ever though.
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post #2 of 19 Old 10-14-2012, 09:48 AM
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With a GN you can pull more weight, it distrubits the weight over the truck frame better. With the BH all the weight is on the rear axle. Other than that, IMO, it's just personal prefference

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First of all, save yourself a lot of heartache and your wallet money by selling that truck. 6.0L Powerstrokes are turkeys at best.

Design wise, GN are the better trailer for heavy loads. 2 horse trailer with 2 horses loaded is not a heavy load. So at that point you are down to personal preference between BP and GN.
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Actually thanks for bashing my truck befotr you even asked what was done to it.

I by no means am a 6.0 fan but before you go bashing it please don't assume that it's a 'turkey' just because most are and I understand they have a bad wrap.
Holy god people are downright rude.


As for the trailer which is what this thread is about the one in interested in is a 3 horse slant with a tack room and a BP. Mine is a 2 horse straight with no tack room and a GN. I'm just more worried about the BP swaying with the horses in it but I know I could always get stabilizing bars.
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A 3 Horse Trailer with a DR, may well exceed the Bumper Rating, then to be safe you need a weigh distributing hitch for that kind of weight if the Bumper would allow the weight.

A goose neck also puts the weight in the center of the axles which make towing easier and safer, less sway and does not take as much weigh off the front wheels like a BP would.

We traded trucks and upgraded to a new BP trailer 3 horse with DR, wished I had never done that, I thought I would save some money on outfitting the new truck..... aghhhh

I also found the GN to be much easier to hook up than a BP, much easier to back up and much easier to get in and out of tight spots.

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Thanks southerntrailsga.

I would ideally like a 2 or 3 horse slant gooseneck with a tack room but finding that within the budget is nearly impossible. Not to mention the new truck needs a gooseneck put in.

I would like to keep my current GN but if I want to keep showing I feel like ill be outgrowing it especially when it needs work and doesn't even have a tack area or changing room.
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Actually thanks for bashing my truck befotr you even asked what was done to it.

I by no means am a 6.0 fan but before you go bashing it please don't assume that it's a 'turkey' just because most are and I understand they have a bad wrap.
Holy god people are downright rude.


As for the trailer which is what this thread is about the one in interested in is a 3 horse slant with a tack room and a BP. Mine is a 2 horse straight with no tack room and a GN. I'm just more worried about the BP swaying with the horses in it but I know I could always get stabilizing bars.
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Good luck with your truck and I mean that.

BP sway is not a normal state, it's abnormal. There are several things that could of caused it with the two most common being wrong hitch height and a tweaked suspension. If you buy a new trailer you shouldn't have a problem if it's a reputable manufacturer. If you are thinking of a used trailer, take it with a test drive unloaded and loaded to see how it pulls.
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I have mostly pulled BP and have never had an issue with swaying. That being said though a number of things can cause any trailer to sway..

Un even load like putting the heaviest horse in the back. Heaviest should go in front or over the axle.

Axle alignment- lots of people don't realize that say if you accidently curb check during a turn, it can affect your axle alignment, making your trailer more prone to swaying. There are shops that do this, and its reccomended as it will help with un even wear on your trailer tires.

Hauling with an inadequate vehicle, if you truck is too small for the load your towing, your going to sway.
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I don't think it was a rude post about your truck. You just took it that way. I ALMOST made the mistake of buying a 6.0 powerstroke before we talked to a ford mechanic...he told us it was a bad idea. These trucks have more thanj ust a bad wrap lol.
there will always be truck biased so you should just get over it:)
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If you're going to stick with a 3/4 ton truck either trailer will do. The big trailer names are not going to put a 3 horse slant w/ tack room into a bumper pull if they can't sell them.

The trailer sway was probably not enough tounge weight or tounge being too low.

I personally find that I can sneak a bumper pull trailer in a lot of places most people can't get other trailers in becuase they are generally a bit shorter and that means they are more responsive to turning.

So I would vote to keep your options open, but remember that a GN is going to cost another 5-700 (guessing) just because of the GN install.
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