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post #11 of 63 Old 04-13-2011, 08:11 PM
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I agree. I hauled the last few years without 4x4, and it was always SO nerve wracking. Granted, we have snow 6 months out of the year and the other 6 months are usually swampy mud, so we have a GOOD reason for needing 4x4 where I live. Most of the events I go to are local rodeos with open field parking where it's always guaranteed at least ONE person will get stuck with 2WD!

Now I have 4x4 and it's amazing. We had to yank the trailer out from behind a snowbank in some pretty muddy swampy ground and I threw her into 4-low and it was like nothing, pulled it out like a breeze!

I really think you'd be MUCH happier pitching out the extra money and make your sacrifice in the mileage as opposed to the leaving out the 4x4.

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post #12 of 63 Old 04-13-2011, 08:16 PM
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I'm going to pop out of my gopher hole and argue against a 4x4

If you're reasonable in where you go (i.e. anyplace other than off road) you should have no problems with a standard truck. In addition to the remarkably reduced price (caused in large part because most people are convinced they "have" to have a 4x4), maintenance expenses are much lower for a 2wd vehicle.

I've always operated under the notion that a 4WD vehicle is wonderful - for getting you stuck further into a place that you shouldn't have gone into anyway.

As far as tires spinning on wet grass - Been there and done that. A cheap solution is to get good tires, perhaps a more aggressive tread as opposed to highway tires.

Consider where you trailer your horses to and let that guide your decision. If you don't leave asphalt or gravel a 2WD could be a great option.

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hoofprints, we were in the same boat. We were told to get a 4x4 because of getting stuck, but we had the same budget as you and got our 2004 Silverado 2500 for 15,000.00 pl us tax. The diesals are better and so is 4x4, but it just wasn't in our budget. I hope we made the right decision. Before you buy check out the reviews on the particular model you are wanting to purchase. We were actually looking at a 2004 Ford F250 diesal for 19,000,00 and the reviews were not good. The Silverado's views were not all good but much better. We could have got the same vehicle with more miles for 14,900 with 88,000 miles and the one we did get we paid 1,000 more for only 62,000 miles. good luck!
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post #14 of 63 Old 04-14-2011, 08:36 AM
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If you're reasonable in where you go (i.e. anyplace other than off road) you should have no problems with a standard truck.
This is a great theory if you know you will never have to go anywhere that does not require 4wd.

The problem comes in when you show up at a horse show and the truck/trailer parking is off in that field over there that was plowed three years ago but never had anything else done with it so it is very rutted and filled with weeds now that they moved but are still 2 feet tall.

I agree that good tires help but they are not enough most of the time.
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post #15 of 63 Old 04-14-2011, 08:45 AM
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Unfortunately good tires don't help much when it's mud + uphill situation. I've seen it enough times, and at least couple times the owner should use another (4wd) truck to pull own truck from situation.

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post #16 of 63 Old 04-14-2011, 10:02 AM
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If you DO go with a 2WD, you should put several bags of sand in the back of your truck to weigh it down, plus if you need traction you can put some of it down around your tires.

F250s are great, as long as you don't get the 6.0L engine. Those don't run so great. The 7.3s are much better, although I have known some 6.0s to run great. Diesels also run longer than gas vehicles.

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post #17 of 63 Old 04-14-2011, 10:46 AM
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I've always operated under the notion that a 4WD vehicle is wonderful - for getting you stuck further into a place that you shouldn't have gone into anyway.

As far as tires spinning on wet grass - Been there and done that. A cheap solution is to get good tires, perhaps a more aggressive tread as opposed to highway tires.

Consider where you trailer your horses to and let that guide your decision. If you don't leave asphalt or gravel a 2WD could be a great option.
Most horse shows, penning, etc around here - you park on grass. Many times a field or pasture next to the event.

New tires do not always allow for adequate traction on wet grass. Even dry, pastures have low spots that are not readily apparent to the new user. Spinning the tires creates ruts - and an unhappy land owner.

The "what if's" are too many to risk not having the 4 wheel drive.
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post #18 of 63 Old 04-14-2011, 11:39 AM
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Have to agree on the 4x4; Trucks without it ARE useless IMHO. All I can say is, it's really nice to not have to worry about it. My driveway (I use the term loosely) washes out every year, and I put it in 4 wheel drive and move out. Oh, and I have a Dodge Ram 1500 Megacab 4x4 with towing package and it will pull what you are talking about easily~it's a 1/2 ton on a 3/4 ton frame. They aren't quite as expensive, I dont think (bought mine new, now its 4 years old) and I got a Hemi and gas engine to boot!! They ought to be a dime a dozen; around here they are for sale EVERYWHERE. (just sad)

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post #19 of 63 Old 04-14-2011, 03:21 PM
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the only benefit that i know of to having a 2wd truck over a 4wd truck is towing capacity and fuel efficiency.
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post #20 of 63 Old 04-14-2011, 04:37 PM
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the only benefit that i know of to having a 2wd truck over a 4wd truck is towing capacity and fuel efficiency.
Even then, you don't always have the vehicle in 4x4, you only switch to that drive when you need it.

As a note to Trails, I DID manage without 4x4 for the last 4 years and I never got stuck. However, keep in mind I haul MAYBE 2-3 times a year, and it meant avoiding certain situations in which at times I ended up parking on a gravel road half a mile from the event and attempting to tack my horse up INSIDE the trailer because I had nowhere to tie (open road on one side, ditch on the other!) The other times we parked on grass, we got lucky and it was drier then a Sahara so no chance of getting stuck.

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