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  • Turning radius of 2 horse bumper pull vs goose neck 2 horse
  • 16' horse trailer bumper half ton

 
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    08-16-2010, 02:11 PM
  #11
Showing
I have a Chevy 2500HD. I've been pretty happy with it so far. I grew up in Michigan where most of my family worked at Fords including my mom and dad. I caught hell when I bought a Chevy Fords does make a good truck too. Just make sure you have enough power to pull whatever trailer you buy. You're better off having too much truck for a small trailer than the other way around.
     
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    08-16-2010, 02:53 PM
  #12
Yearling
My Dodge 1500 with the off road suspension pulls 2 horses in the bumper pull fine. It does put a strain on it if on the rare occasion I have to pull 3 in the mountains. Just be sure you have a brake box for the trailer. I agree with Vidaloco in the respect that you'd much rather have too much truck than not enough.
     
    08-23-2010, 12:18 AM
  #13
Weanling
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Originally Posted by myQHpaul    
I will be buying my first trailer in a few short months and my barn owner said that bumper pulls are great. They are easier to drive, back up, and park. Good luck with your search.
i disagree with your barn owner! I've ALWAYS found goosenecks to be easier to pull and back. Let's put it this way: any kind of gooseneck, i'm a backing FOOL. I'll get it where you want it, to a T. I've even gotten pretty good at backing the big truck trailers (48 and 53' flatbeds) into the shop at work.

Bumper pulls still get me in trouble sometimes. The biggest problem is it's a lot easier to jackknife a bp. Seems that it takes a lot more effort to learn to back one over a gooseneck.

These are a few photos of my trailer at my mother in law's house near albany ny. She lives right off a main road, and I DID have to pull into the neighbor's yard across the road but that's because I couldn't block traffic for long. One shot hit, I was pretty proud of myself on this one!






Now, what to pull it with? Disregard brands. Pick whichever one you want, all have advantages and disadvantages. Then configure whatever brand you choose into an appropriate 1/2 or 3/4 ton. Doesn't sound like you'll do ANYTHING that'd warrant a 1 ton. That trailer of mine is a 20' and I wouldn't hesitate to load 4 horses in it and pull it back up north to ny if there was NEED for it. My 3/4 would do it and ask for more. Hell, we hauled 2 horses and a bunch of household items down here last year.

I see you're from ny as well. I'm from down here in ks and it's generally flatter, but I do see a fair number of 16' goosenecks pulled by half tons and I don't know that I would, however that's just me. Point is I think some people underestimate a half ton. But if in doubt, go a bit bigger and get a 3/4 ton.

Like I say, i'm sold on goosenecks, but as mentioned before, the NICE thing about bp trailers is the fact that any pickup with a hitch can hook on and pull it. It's why once our BP gets finished being worked over by the high school shop kids in town it'll come down here again so we have a way for the wife to move critters around if need be.
     
    08-23-2010, 01:06 PM
  #14
Green Broke
I agree with Spence. I learned to pull on a bumper pull, but I found that for pulling down the road the gooseneck rode and pulled so much nicer! I DID suck for backing it up but then again I had gone from a 2h bumper pull to a 41 ft long GN 4h with LQ - it was simply way more trailer than I needed. Now I do pull with a chevy 1 ton dually - way more truck than you need for the size trailer than you are looking for, but I'm grateful to have it because I use if for everything else too - spent the weekend using it to pull up trees and pull down an old partially collapsed well house. I'd always prefer to have more truck than I need, rather than to find out in hindsight I didn't have enough.
     
    08-23-2010, 01:45 PM
  #15
Trained
I love my BP, especially since I use my "truck" for other things. I have an older, steel trailer, which is heavier, especially since one of my guys is a draftX, so it is extra tall, extra wide, and has an area in the front that works for a dressing room. Anyway, yes, you need the braking system, no matter what you pull with, IMO, as well as sway bars. I would not pull without either.
Now, as far as vehicles......I have pulled one horse in my trailer with an explorer-do not recommend a smaller vehicle at all, even with a V-8. They just don't have the weight, especially if you are ever in bad weather, hills, etc. It used to feel like my horse was pushing me around in that. I graduated to an Expedition several years ago, and love it. It has a wider wheel base than some. I know my friend likes to pull with it better than her Aspen for sure. I would recommend a vehicle with a back up camera-much easier to hook up. I will say tho, that the new F-150's have the option to come with the braking system, which is nice, since I always bump my leg on mine. Hard to find a good place. Whatever vehicle you choose, make sure it has the tow package......naturally.
I do hear that GN are easier to back, etc....I only go forward unless I have LOTS of room!
     
    08-23-2010, 09:15 PM
  #16
Weanling
I have had both GN and BP, and can pull either one effectively. However, I am more comfortable with a GN. That being said, I also learned how to pull a GN trailer in the pasture before I had a drivers permit, and was hauling a 3 horse GN with LQ on a drivers permit, so it is like second nature to me. And now, with my little BP, I still drive like I have a GN on. That being said, I think a GN is a lot more stable in high winds and corners, I am more secure with the hitch, and I think you have a tighter turning radius.

Personally, I won't pull a horse trailer with anything less than a 3/4 ton truck, both due to getting going and for stopping power. If you want a long winded discussion on brands, pm me and we can go into it. I just bought a used truck and had to learn a lot about years/makes,etc, especially regarding diesels (gas mileage is horrible pulling loaded with a gas engine and my short trips are 4 hours round trip, so I need the better mileage). Let me know if you have any questions.

Oh, and as an aside - if you go with a BP, please, please, make sure it is a double axle trailer - you do not want a single axle.
     
    08-23-2010, 09:50 PM
  #17
Trained
When a GN hits the ditch, there is less of a chance it will roll (I know this from experience - a GN saved my horse's life). For that reason alone, if you have the means, I would get a GN. BPs are great and convenient, but the balance, ride and safety of a GN is much better. I would also get one at least 7' tall to accommodate most horses and straight hauls are better for the horses. If you can, also find partitions that go to the floor, just make sure you're wrapping/booting and bell booting the legs to keep them from rubbing.

As far as trucks go - I haul a light 2 horse with a GMC 2500HD 4x4 and I wouldn't want any less truck. Being over trucked is way better than risking being under trucked. And make sure you have 4x4 without rear dually. The barn hauls their 4 horse w/ living quarters with a recreational freightliner - highly recommend these trucks they are a dream to haul with. Again - if you have the means and want living quarters they are the truck to get. For just a small trailer a 3/4 or 1 ton is fine though.

Good luck!
     
    08-23-2010, 10:29 PM
  #18
Weanling
Ok, couple more comments from the peanut gallery. First of all, even if you want a 2 horse, consider a 2 horse gooseneck. I've only seen one, but from what she told me it seemed they aren't totally uncommon. Hitches are cheap compared to the life of my animals.

Second, i've hauled I dunno how many loads of cattle, and my horses, withOUT trailer brakes. But that's through the relative flats of kansas. The two reasons why I put a control in and had my trailer's brakes checked was 1) I was going to ny and 2) I was going to ny. Lol, more informatively I was headed up into more hilly terrain (was glad I had them a FEW times), and I sure as hell didn't want to get STOPPED in NYS without one. Heaven forbid, those guys are stupid about everything.
     
    08-23-2010, 10:40 PM
  #19
Trained
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Originally Posted by spence    
ok, couple more comments from the peanut gallery. First of all, even if you want a 2 horse, consider a 2 horse gooseneck. I've only seen one, but from what she told me it seemed they aren't totally uncommon. Hitches are cheap compared to the life of my animals.

Second, i've hauled I dunno how many loads of cattle, and my horses, withOUT trailer brakes. But that's through the relative flats of kansas. The two reasons why I put a control in and had my trailer's brakes checked was 1) I was going to ny and 2) I was going to ny. Lol, more informatively I was headed up into more hilly terrain (was glad I had them a FEW times), and I sure as hell didn't want to get STOPPED in NYS without one. Heaven forbid, those guys are stupid about everything.
Haha-if you want "stupid about everything" try VA and MD in the DC metro! I have not had an issue in NYS-**knocks wood**
     
    08-23-2010, 11:29 PM
  #20
Showing
I personally prefer goosenecks simply because it is much easier to turn them around and back them up.

One thing with a bumper pull is that you never want to put more weight in the back than the front. If you are hauling 3 horses, put 2 in the front as opposed to 2 in the back. If the back is weighted down, then it will pick your truck's back end up if you hit a bump and you could end up fishtailing and wrecking. Only reason I know this is because there is this stupid guy here in town that has done that twice. Totaled 2 trailers and 1 pickup, thankfully, none of the animals he was hauling got hurt.
     

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