Issues finding a trailer - Page 3
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Barns, Boarding, and Farms > Horse Trailers

Issues finding a trailer

This is a discussion on Issues finding a trailer within the Horse Trailers forums, part of the Barns, Boarding, and Farms category

    Like Tree22Likes

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        03-26-2014, 09:16 PM
      #21
    Green Broke
    It's not just about tow rating and is a trap many fall into. 1/2 tons can be rated to a pretty decent rating but they still lack things like:
    -Heavier frame that can take the stress.
    -Heavier axles that can take the stress.
    -Bigger brakes that can stop the load.
    -Full floating rear end. What's this mean? If you snap your axle the wheel will stay where it belong so you can stop safely. 1/2 tons have a C clip rear end which means if you break your axle (more likely when towing) your wheel and axle can exit the vehicle which is rather problematic.
    -Heavier suspension which can better take the stress.
    -Beefier transmission that was built to take the stress and heat of towing. Automatics will also be programmed with a different set of shift points and use a different torque converter.
    -Believe it or not an engine that was built to tow. Typically if you look at the specs you'll see they are rated at a slightly lower HP than the same engine in a 1/2 ton but with higher torque. Torque is what you want for towing and the difference is usually in the cam used and engine management programming.
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        03-26-2014, 10:07 PM
      #22
    Foal
    We just looked up the cars towing ability and it said it can haul up to 1.5 tons. Also, the frame is a truck frame(if that makes any difference?) and we have gotten accessories(brakes,extra wheels on the side and other stuff I can't remember).
    Like I said, we've hauled before with no problem and I live in PA with many hills and tight turns! We are looking for a truck that can haul more than the car but we have to work with what we have lol
    Any advice on what we should look for in a truck then?
         
        03-26-2014, 10:38 PM
      #23
    Trained
    1.5 tons is only 3000 pounds. That really is not much.

    If the conditions are ideal you can get moving but ultimately it's not safe. Not running into a problem to date doesn't mean your chances aren't really high to :)

    Look at the total estimated weight of what you want to haul and go from there. Get all the horses you think you would want to haul at once and figure out their weight. Then consider things like tack, water, etc.

    If you want an SUV, a Yukon can tow recently well and I think there's another big SUV - a suburban? Those do better than some trucks. I wouldn't go smaller than that and definitely not smaller than a 1/2 ton truck. I went with a 3/4 ton truck to expand my options.
    Posted via Mobile Device
         
        03-26-2014, 11:35 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DancingArabian    
    1.5 tons is only 3000 pounds. That really is not much.

    If the conditions are ideal you can get moving but ultimately it's not safe. Not running into a problem to date doesn't mean your chances aren't really high to :)

    Look at the total estimated weight of what you want to haul and go from there. Get all the horses you think you would want to haul at once and figure out their weight. Then consider things like tack, water, etc.

    If you want an SUV, a Yukon can tow recently well and I think there's another big SUV - a suburban? Those do better than some trucks. I wouldn't go smaller than that and definitely not smaller than a 1/2 ton truck. I went with a 3/4 ton truck to expand my options.
    Posted via Mobile Device
    Yukon is a 1/2 ton that weighs more than a pickup to begin with which lowers what it can tow. Suburban may or may not be a 3/4 ton, they can also be on a 1/2 ton chassis.

    OP, basically you want a 3/4 ton pickup or more for safety's sake. As for what you are looking at to tow, about the lightest trailer you'll find is 2500 pounds (think some Brenderups are down to 1800 but good luck finding one) but most small trailers will be in the 2500-3000 pound range. Figure your horse at 1000 pounds. Couple more hundred pounds for gear puts you 3700-4200 pounds at a minimum. As already stated you don't want to tow at max rating for any length of time so at a bare minimum I would be looking at 5000 pound towing capacity. That puts you in the range of a medium sized SUV or pickup. But as I stated above those are pretty darn light to be pulling livestock and I wouldn't go less than a 3/4 ton.

    Also, don't get anything that doesn't have a transmission cooler as you'll fry your transmission in short order without it (automatic only).
    spirit1215 likes this.
         
        03-27-2014, 01:53 PM
      #25
    Foal
    My mom's car is an SUV but I don't think it's a surburban. I probably should have mentioned that before lol It's a big SUV and it will only be hauling one horse and we are going to be looking at a little one horse trailer( I'm not a big fan of it, it looks really small!!) but it's not heavy as the 2 horses we've been looking at...
         
        03-27-2014, 02:10 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by spirit1215    
    My mom's car is an SUV but I don't think it's a surburban. I probably should have mentioned that before lol It's a big SUV and it will only be hauling one horse and we are going to be looking at a little one horse trailer( I'm not a big fan of it, it looks really small!!) but it's not heavy as the 2 horses we've been looking at...
    Honestly it really doesn't matter whether it's a car, truck, SUV, or van. If its tow rating is 3000 lbs it's simply not suited to towing horses. The lightest one-horse trailer out there is the Brenderup Solo, which weighs 1300 lbs. Two-horse Brenderups are hard to find, and the Solo even more so. On top of that, if you can find one in good condition they're quite expensive. At that point you're often better off putting the money towards a 1/2 ton truck and steel trailer. A steel one horse trailer with no tack room might be as low as 2000 lbs. With a 1000 lb horse, you are towing at capacity. Keep in mind that these capacities are based off "dead weight" cargo with a low center of gravity. Horses have a high center of gravity and move around. Towing a horse when the weight is at or near the towing capacity is unsafe. Period.

    TL;DR: Don't do it. For the safety of all involved, just don't do it.
         
        03-30-2014, 07:51 PM
      #27
    Trained
    Doesn't the states, some or all, have regular Department of Motor Vehicle checks? They do here, and pulling a horse trailer, even a straight haul 2 horse with anything less than a 3/4 ton will probably get you cited and pulled off the road. Seen it happen.
         
        03-31-2014, 12:36 AM
      #28
    Green Broke
    To my knowledge most states don't enforce the laws on non commercial vehicles. Take Oregon as an example. Non commercial vehicles do not have to pull into weigh stations so no inspection there . My trailer is required to be license seperate of my tow vehicle, on initial registering they check the VIN number and nothing else, renewals are done by mail. A cop could pull me over and do an inspection but that's something that rarely happens.

    So in effect there is no enforcement if towing laws unless you get in an accident. Then the state steps in and reads you the riot act. Afterwards you are likely to be sued and lose in civil court if someone got hurt.
    Posted via Mobile Device
    Dustbunny likes this.
         
        03-31-2014, 11:11 AM
      #29
    Started
    Darrin is correct.
    One sees stuff on the road all the time that should not be there.
         
        03-31-2014, 12:26 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    I found you a link to a huge list of vehicles from many manufacturers of towing capacities. **
    So many combinations and choices only you will be able to scroll through and find "moms" car and what it has ratings for.
    Please also realize that those ratings are for "dead weight" such as a camping trailer or boat...NOT live cargo such as a horse.
    There is a difference and it is huge...

    Also reconsider a one-horse trailer as that can put more stress on the tow vehicle than many realize than actually pulling a 2-horse.
    Sometimes the saved "poundage" but added stresses are not a good thing...

    No one is trying to discourage you from getting a trailer, towing and transporting your horse.
    What everyone is telling you is to do it the smart way of not over-taxing your vehicle by towing a live animals when you might be very near the vehicles capabilities.
    The idea of having trailer will tow is to reach your destination in a safe manner with as little stress to the animal, the occupants of the tow vehicle and no more excessive stress to the tow vehicle that can cause roadside failure or worse...

    Do your research, learn then go look at what you want and stay safely in the vehicles guidelines put out by the manufacturer.
    Then get some expert instruction in how to handle that "truck and trailer" as it is not a dead weight tow and when Misty standing in the back suddenly bumps her tush on the side of the trailer and makes you do a "Oh-crap" lane change you better know what you are doing to correct it and keep it from flipping over or going off the road. Think many are alluding to seeing what happens when you tow beyond the vehicles safe zones...

    Please....be very careful.
    Your life, your horses life and the lives of those who share the road with you are all at your disposal.

    **Truck and SUV Towing Capacity Charts
    Dustbunny likes this.
         

    Tags
    horse, lightweight, trailers

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Need help finding a trailer shellybean Horse Trailers 12 06-24-2013 09:43 PM
    A few trailer loading issues Cowgirls Boots Horse Training 24 05-14-2013 05:29 PM
    Trailer Issues BarrelRacingMolly Horse Health 1 06-27-2011 11:52 AM
    issues with selling a trailer KANSAS_TWISTER Horse Law 1 08-23-2010 08:47 AM
    trailer issues pintoluver112104 Horse Training 38 01-30-2010 10:01 PM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:33 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0