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        04-05-2013, 02:02 AM
      #31
    Green Broke
    Here's a tip I was given AFTER we got our trailer. Get one bigger than you think you need. If you need a two horse, get a three horse. Reasoning is that even if you only have X horses, and you buy a trailer that would hold X horses, a time will come when you need to haul X +1 (or 2) horses.

    We bought a 2 horse for my wife and me. Why would we need a trailer for more than 2? Not long after getting it, we needed to haul 3 and several times since. We have squeezed 3 in it but its just a bit too cozy at times and very possibly overweight for the trailer.
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        04-05-2013, 02:08 AM
      #32
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by usandpets    
    Here's a tip I was given AFTER we got our trailer. Get one bigger than you think you need. If you need a two horse, get a three horse. Reasoning is that even if you only have X horses, and you buy a trailer that would hold X horses, a time will come when you need to haul X +1 (or 2) horses.

    We bought a 2 horse for my wife and me. Why would we need a trailer for more than 2? Not long after getting it, we needed to haul 3 and several times since. We have squeezed 3 in it but its just a bit too cozy at times and very possibly overweight for the trailer.
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    In addition to this, if your horse(s) are larger, like my beastly, they will take up more room. That two-horse slant I posted? Aires (at 16hh and 1200lbs) took up a little more than half of it.
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        04-05-2013, 02:02 PM
      #33
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Horsequeen08    
    Also, I did the research you guys suggested on weight limit only to find out his car won't pull a horse trailer, the weight limit is way to low. :( Still, any more info you can give will be useful! At least now I know some more about what I'm looking for. Guess now I gotta search for a higher-weight towing vehicle. Maybe I'll just buy that truck that's for sale on the corner, lol. (Kidding!)
    If you go truck (of course, I would say go DODGE!) if you're looking at just a two horse you can probably get away with a half ton (mine, as I said, is rated for 9000lbs and is a half ton, but it's then newer, beefier half ton that cost me a LOT of money LOL) but I would stick to the 3/4 tons if you could, and I probably wouldn't look at one that wasn't a 4x4 - but I guess that depends on where and when you'll be using it. Here, you got three feet of snow or three feet of mud so a non 4x4 is useless.
    If you can, go for a goose neck - they haul a lot easier then bumper pulls and gives you a lot more maneuverability, and the center of balance is the middle of your truck and not your bumper - a lot easier on the whole rear end of your truck. More expensive, but in the long run, definitely worth it.
         
        04-05-2013, 05:01 PM
      #34
    Weanling
    If I buy a trailer, I'll probably end up keeping it for many years. So I want to get something will suit my needs both now and in the future. WS- by half ton do you mean the amount the truck can pull or the weight of the trailer itself? I think you mean the amount it can pull, but I'm just checking.

    As another note, just your own personal prefrence: What kind of trailer do you think it best? Slant load or straight? Ramp or step down? Etc. Just curious about opinions.
         
        04-05-2013, 05:31 PM
      #35
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Horsequeen08    
    WS- by half ton do you mean the amount the truck can pull or the weight of the trailer itself? I think you mean the amount it can pull, but I'm just checking.
    Half-ton actually refers to the hauling capacity of the truck bed. In a half-ton truck, you can haul 1000lbs (or half a ton) of materials safely. Three-quarter-ton can haul 1500lbs safely. One-ton can haul 2000lbs safely. This is completely separate from the towing capacity. Most half-ton trucks are rated to tow 7000-9000lbs from the tow bar (bar mounted to the frame under the bumper of the truck). 3/4-tons can generally tow 10,000-12,000lbs from the tow bar. One-tons can generally tow 13,000-15,000lbs from the tow bar. The towing capacity varies by brand/model/engine size. A Dodge Ram 1500 with the 4.7-liter engine won't be able to tow the same amount as the Ram 1500 with the 5.7-liter Hemi. The majority of 3/4- and one-ton trucks are diesels, so have a higher towing capacity than their gas counterparts.

    Also, make sure that whatever truck you end up buying has a tow package on it from the factory. Aftermarket tow packages usually aren't rated as high. A tow package will beef up you alternator to handle the trailer braking system and the lights. It will also add a bigger cooling fan and high capacity coolant.
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        04-05-2013, 05:48 PM
      #36
    Trained
    ^^What she said!

    Chev and Dodge's both use the "thousand" system:
    1500 - half ton
    2500 - 3/4 ton
    3500 - 1 ton (by far the best option, but CASH. LOL)

    Fords are F150, F250, etc but I wouldn't....

    Avoid the mini versions of trucks such as the GMC Sonoma, Ford Ranger, Dodge Dakota - they're as uselss as cars.

    Diesel engines are best but I get by just fine with my Ram 5.7 gas job. :)

    Agreed with making sure it already has a tow package! Not only are they better, but they cost a fortune to buy and install after the fact.
         
        04-05-2013, 10:26 PM
      #37
    Weanling
    As embarassing as it was asking the questions I did in the OP, this has been EXTREMELY helpful. Like I said, you guys were once me, super clueless. Someone taught you, and now you are teaching me. Man I feel like I already know so much more about horse trailers that the people at the expo won't think I'm a -complete- idiot, just 1/2 an idiot, haha. Thanks guys!
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        04-05-2013, 10:37 PM
      #38
    Trained
    I'm lucky that I'm a daddy's girl and my dad is a car guy, so he's taught me a lot. He's the one who let me tow all the random stuff I have, starting when I was old enough to drive. My one weakness is backing a trailer. As long as I have someone guiding me who knows what they're doing and gives clear directions, I'm ok. By myself? Not so much. Lol.

    You're right, we all did start somewhere and I think sometimes people who have been doing this a while forget that.
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        04-05-2013, 10:50 PM
      #39
    Weanling
    I'm actually terrified to even TRY to pull a trailer. I think when I get one I'm just going to make my trainer haul me everywhere. I'm NOT getting on the road until I've put like 50+ miles on the truck by "towing" around the barn haha.
         
        04-05-2013, 10:55 PM
      #40
    Green Broke
    Just a personal preference....
    But if I was in your situation I would buy the best pickup you can afford, at least a 3/4 ton and hopefully a diesel.
    Then I would spend the rest on a stock trailer. Forget the fancy drop down doors and such. If you can get one with a small tackroom that locks for your saddle and stuff for shows. ( it also works good for the "tackroom" at home) Horses load well into a open stock trailer and they are less inexpensive then the fancier models. Later down the road as your needs change and you geta feel for what works for you in trailer options you can upgrade. Well maintained stock trailers seem to hold their value well.
         

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