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post #11 of 15 Old 06-20-2012, 12:07 AM
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Let me chime in here on downshifting...
There are a few tricks I have learned hauling heavier loads than just horses, while driving stick shift and automatic transmissions.
I prefer a stick for hauling hands down.
The trickto downshifting with a stick is to goose the throttle to bring the engine speed up on par with the tranny gear, so it lessens the direct load on the clutch.
That helps the clutch and the engine both do their job.
It then let's the engine compression slow your drive wheels, slowing everything down.
Downshiftingan auto tranny is similar, but you lightly step on the brakes to disengage the torque converter before you downshift, then a little gas to smooth out the shifting.
On a half ton truck, which is more of a toy than a truck, you'll have to be especially awaret of not downshifting and over revving the engine. That essentially means rpm's no night than what you would normally up shift at.
For example, I generally up shift between 1800 and 2000 rpm. I avoid downshifting until my RPMs get into that range, braking until I get it there, which is about 500rpm lower.
I have gone as high as 3500, but that was an emergency type situation.
Common lifespan for a clutch on my truck is about 75k miles. I'm at 150k.
Just a thought to ponder.
Don't believe me?
Ask a trucker about it.
They run trucks with 3x the horse power andthe same clutch I run in mine, and get 250-300k out of theirs.

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post #12 of 15 Old 06-20-2012, 12:19 AM
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Let me chime in here on downshifting...
There are a few tricks I have learned hauling heavier loads than just horses, while driving stick shift and automatic transmissions.
I prefer a stick for hauling hands down.
The trickto downshifting with a stick is to goose the throttle to bring the engine speed up on par with the tranny gear, so it lessens the direct load on the clutch.
That helps the clutch and the engine both do their job.
It then let's the engine compression slow your drive wheels, slowing everything down.
Downshiftingan auto tranny is similar, but you lightly step on the brakes to disengage the torque converter before you downshift, then a little gas to smooth out the shifting.
On a half ton truck, which is more of a toy than a truck, you'll have to be especially awaret of not downshifting and over revving the engine. That essentially means rpm's no night than what you would normally up shift at.
For example, I generally up shift between 1800 and 2000 rpm. I avoid downshifting until my RPMs get into that range, braking until I get it there, which is about 500rpm lower.
I have gone as high as 3500, but that was an emergency type situation.
Common lifespan for a clutch on my truck is about 75k miles. I'm at 150k.
Just a thought to ponder.
Don't believe me?
Ask a trucker about it.
They run trucks with 3x the horse power andthe same clutch I run in mine, and get 250-300k out of theirs.
Some very good points on manual transmissions (I'm at 180k on my current truck with original clutch). Haven't done much towing with an auto transmission as I prefer manuals myself. Not sure what I'll do for my next truck as it's getting **** near impossible to buy a manual these days.
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post #13 of 15 Old 06-20-2012, 12:28 AM
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Here, in BC Canada, esp. In the spring, they pull over every trailer on the road & check the brakes, break aways, safety chains, you name it and your vehicle's tow rating, suspension, etc. You don't pass, you are off the road. Pain in the butt but keeps everyone safe. Lucky this year, I didn't have to unload & do all the inspection for the DOT, my trailer was less than a year old, they looked at my registration for both truck & trailer and asked me if I knew how to check my brakes. I said no, but I know how to take it to the RV place & they do, cop laughed & said, bye. We also have a new law as well, if you are towing over 10,000 lbs loaded, which is a 2 horsegoose neck with LQ's & a couple of horses, you have to have a class 3 driver's license.
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post #14 of 15 Old 06-21-2012, 03:09 PM Thread Starter
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...a while back I was riding with my trainer pulling her 4 horse slant w/ camper (with a ram 3500 auto) and we were up in the mountains in colorado. While we were coming down the mountain, her brakes literally caught on fire! We had to pull over to the side and put it out. Then had our friend with a standard come get the trailer while we had the truck towed back....needless to say she sold it and got a standard.
Now that's really scary! It's a good thing we don't go out much, I guess; and never very far. It's so hilly around here we thought the automatic was sooooo cool!

I don't know what kind of controller we got, probably not the best. Got it from NAPA and they won't tell you a thing. Then needed another small gadget. It's all hooked up and if it ever stops raining we'll try it out. Then we'll call that cowboy to help us adjust it!

Thanks for all the responses. I'm seriously thinking of giving this all up and arranging for a PROFESSIONAL to haul us. Much less convenient, but in the long run, probably would cost a whole lot less!
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post #15 of 15 Old 07-03-2012, 05:26 PM
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Trailer Brake Laws

Trailer brake laws vary by state and generally go off the GVW of the trailer. See link for your state laws state brake laws
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