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        12-12-2013, 06:14 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    I am completely open to used actually if I find from a dealer or can just get a personal loan. I honestly wasn't sure what kind of loan id be applying for from the bank to buy a trailer ha! Wasn't sure if it was considered personal or like a car loan, so thanks for that info. Id also def never buy something with that high of an interest rate, I could charge it on my usaa credit card and pay less in interest haha.

    My dad told me my truck couldn't handle a GN :( I was interested in looking at them because everyone that has them seems to absolutely love them.

    I'm checking Cl everyday in va/md and even a little in wv and pa, I've found a few that would possibly be good for me I just wasn't sure about how I could finance it buying used from Craigslist. I'll have to keep looking and figure out a good price range to apply for from the bank and then see what they offer me and then really start shopping?

    If I buy used I could def afford aluminum, should I go with that or still look at steel trailers too?
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        12-12-2013, 07:34 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    Might I strongly suggest you sit down and do some serious research regarding your truck and what it can safely tow, STOP and handle engine, transmission, drive-train and braking wise.
    By your dads comment have a feeling he may be well ahead of you in what you should not could be hauling size and weight wise. Dad may also understand more than he is expressing to you...ask questions from him to learn why his feelings are as they are, there are valid reasons behind his answers I can near guarantee you. He knows your truck, not us!

    Now, once you have done your research and know your specific limitations in what you can handle without over-doing or over-taxing your trucks capabilities you start to make a wish and a realistic list for your trailer.
    By all means put in the list necessities, needs, wants and luxuries....
    Now start looking at "real" trailers and see where that list puts you in age of a trailer and what is on/in that trailer.
    Pare and tweak that list as needed...

    I personally would never take out a loan and pay interest on a horse trailer item... a toy and luxury.
    Personal loans, credit card interest adds up no matter how much that interest amount is it costs plenty...save some more if you need to and buy CASH.... cash talks and makes deals where no financing amount can.... they deal or you walk out the door to find another and a sale is lost...not happening in most places.
    Unless you buy a trailer with living quarters, bathroom facilities and kitchen cooking availability your interest is not tax deductible...

    Also remember that no matter what you buy, gooseneck or bumper-pull all towing of trailers puts a strain to the tow vehicle engine, suspension, brakes, just everything whether others will admit to that or not it is true.
    So, don't max out your trucks capabilities, do treat your truck to excellent maintenance and have all those nagging little things taken care of before you go on the road with a horse trailer in tow.
    Regardless of manufacturer {Chevy, Dodge, Ford} when you go from a 150, 1500 series to a 250, 2500 hundred series or larger weight classification, the actual frame dimensions gets more robust {larger} and the braking pieces of drums/rotors also increase giving you better handling and stopping ability.

    I do not include any import brands as to me they just don't have what it takes to compare in towing capabilities regardless of what people say or do...they don't compare "yet"!


    Do your research, decide what you must have, won't live without and what is a "want" and then go looking....

    My understanding is that there is not much of a weight savings aluminum to steel. Steel may rust but aluminum oxidizes and most don't have the equipment to really clean a aluminum trailer the way it needs doing except to take it to a commercial truck stop for washing...expensive I understand. Steel can and does rust...pick your poison to deal with.
    Personally, I do steel frame and trailer. I have friends who have a beautiful LQ aluminum gooseneck, brand new... going to Congress to compete the hitch ripped out of it and the frame racked... manufacturer fixed it... 6 months no trailer, returned and it did it again...manufacturer now gave them a brand new trailer... verdict is out.
    They are looking to go back to steel, they've had it!! That is their experience and not one that is common but....IDK...


    Best of luck and Happy Shopping.
    Please remember, pictures when you bring home your "new" trailer to enjoy!!


    jmo...
         
        12-12-2013, 08:16 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    I actually picked out this truck with a few trailers in mind! When I decided my little v6 nissan frontier wasn't cutting it, I started doing my truck research, and researched trailers/weights of them to help me pick out my truck. When I bought this truck, I had in mind my next trailer to be 3000-3600lbs from the research I had done. So I went with a 2010 f150 with the 5.4L in it, its rated for 8100lbs.

    I bought it with in mind to just be upgrading to a larger BP, I figured it wouldn't cut it for a GN and my dad agrees, and I'm ok with that. One I bought doesn't have as big of a rear end that the 150's CAN come with and I'm sure that's why it wouldn't cut it for a GN. I love my truck though and I live in the city so I really can't imagine having a BIGGER truck lol! So I bought it with having in mind what type of trailer I wanted next, now just have to pick out the actual one!

    I try to follow a 80% rule, like not towing more then 80% of what its capable of, not sure if that's a silly rule to go by, I just read it a few times and it made sense to not tax my truck everytime I'm towing.

    So by that rule my trailer + horse could be 6480 lbs, then with a 3500 lb trailer I'm left with the 2980. My horse weighs about 1200, so just my horse and tack keeps me well below that but with plenty of room I think for a friends horse on occasion. I'm sure if on few occasions I went over my 80% rule I wouldn't kill my truck either though, I follow the rule big time for the tires though, NOT going to put more weight on those then what they say that's for sure.

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    they deal or you walk out the door to find another and a sale is lost...not happening in most places.
    Ha that's totally my dads moto when buying things, he helped me buy my first two cars and when they wouldn't deal with us we left...they called within 24 hours to get us back in there! My last three vehicle purchases I actually made without him, just followed his rules and got great deals. I wish USAA had a trailer buying program like they do with cars...

    I'm still debating if I do want to finance or not actually. Once I get my taxes back, and from selling my current trailer I should have 7000-8000 in cash...I was just thinking of paying off some other stuff with that and having a few thousand left for down payment. Right now I just have my mortgage, truck payment and one credit card (which would be getting paid off before buying a trailer) so I guess that's why I thought about financing too...Paying one thing off in full, having a good downpayment leftover and getting what I want sooner haha.


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    I have friends who have a beautiful LQ aluminum gooseneck, brand new... going to Congress to compete the hitch ripped out of it and the frame racked... manufacturer fixed it... 6 months no trailer, returned and it did it again...manufacturer now gave them a brand new trailer... verdict is out.
    They are looking to go back to steel, they've had it!! That is their experience and not one that is common but....IDK...
    Wow that is crazy, your poor friend! Its kind of hard to decide between alum/steel...my current trailer is a little rusty, pretty much all surface, but its just gross looking to me and I'm always worried it could get worse :(

    I appreciate all your advice! Part of me wants to just keep using my little clunker trailer...and save more...I dunno! Its so tiny and rusting and old :( Guess I'm partially wanting to sell it too before the floors need replacing. I've pretty much replaced everything in it BUT the floors and right now I have it parked at my dog grooming shop, on grass/gravel...so not ideal for parking a trailer. If I get a new one I think I'll just pay the little extra to park it where I board because it would be a much more trailer friendly environment. I check the floors pretty often though, like prodding the underside and topside with a screw driver, and for now they're still pretty darn solid.
         
        12-12-2013, 09:09 PM
      #14
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by evilamc    
    I actually picked out this truck with a few trailers in mind! When I decided my little v6 nissan frontier wasn't cutting it, I started doing my truck research, and researched trailers/weights of them to help me pick out my truck. When I bought this truck, I had in mind my next trailer to be 3000-3600lbs from the research I had done. So I went with a 2010 f150 with the 5.4L in it, its rated for 8100lbs.

    I bought it with in mind to just be upgrading to a larger BP, I figured it wouldn't cut it for a GN and my dad agrees, and I'm ok with that. One I bought doesn't have as big of a rear end that the 150's CAN come with and I'm sure that's why it wouldn't cut it for a GN. I love my truck though and I live in the city so I really can't imagine having a BIGGER truck lol! So I bought it with having in mind what type of trailer I wanted next, now just have to pick out the actual one!

    I try to follow a 80% rule, like not towing more then 80% of what its capable of, not sure if that's a silly rule to go by, I just read it a few times and it made sense to not tax my truck everytime I'm towing.

    So by that rule my trailer + horse could be 6480 lbs, then with a 3500 lb trailer I'm left with the 2980. My horse weighs about 1200, so just my horse and tack keeps me well below that but with plenty of room I think for a friends horse on occasion. I'm sure if on few occasions I went over my 80% rule I wouldn't kill my truck either though, I follow the rule big time for the tires though, NOT going to put more weight on those then what they say that's for sure.



    Ha that's totally my dads moto when buying things, he helped me buy my first two cars and when they wouldn't deal with us we left...they called within 24 hours to get us back in there! My last three vehicle purchases I actually made without him, just followed his rules and got great deals. I wish USAA had a trailer buying program like they do with cars...

    I'm still debating if I do want to finance or not actually. Once I get my taxes back, and from selling my current trailer I should have 7000-8000 in cash...I was just thinking of paying off some other stuff with that and having a few thousand left for down payment. Right now I just have my mortgage, truck payment and one credit card (which would be getting paid off before buying a trailer) so I guess that's why I thought about financing too...Paying one thing off in full, having a good downpayment leftover and getting what I want sooner haha.




    Wow that is crazy, your poor friend! Its kind of hard to decide between alum/steel...my current trailer is a little rusty, pretty much all surface, but its just gross looking to me and I'm always worried it could get worse :(

    I appreciate all your advice! Part of me wants to just keep using my little clunker trailer...and save more...I dunno! Its so tiny and rusting and old :( Guess I'm partially wanting to sell it too before the floors need replacing. I've pretty much replaced everything in it BUT the floors and right now I have it parked at my dog grooming shop, on grass/gravel...so not ideal for parking a trailer. If I get a new one I think I'll just pay the little extra to park it where I board because it would be a much more trailer friendly environment. I check the floors pretty often though, like prodding the underside and topside with a screw driver, and for now they're still pretty darn solid.
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        12-12-2013, 09:21 PM
      #15
    Foal
    My horses ride in a livestock trailer because I also have cattle and they pay the bills. I started with a steel Dalton and now have an all aluminum Eby. I could never stop the steel trailer from rusting. If you can find the appropriate size gn go for it. The gn hitches ahead of the rear axle and puts more weight on the front axle. Gn trailers are also easier to get around with. I brought my Eby directly from Eby in New Holland Pa. There was also a dealer in Westminster I think who had good trailer prices on EBAY. On the Shore Delwood Trailer Sales has a large selection.
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        12-13-2013, 06:54 AM
      #16
    Trained
    Not understanding why your F-150 couldn't handle a GN, as long as the weight was within your parameters. If it were me, I would be looking into that. They are so much easier to handle. Here is a used one at the place in MD I bought mine and the empty weight is the same as what you are talking.
    Merhow 2001 2-H GN TB DRESSING ROOM Horse Trailer for sale at Cox Trailer Sales, Inc.
         
        12-13-2013, 07:32 AM
      #17
    Foal
    Your dad is quite right about the gn, it's not so much the trailer weight as the 20-25% pin weight that is common on horse trailers. Your F150 is probably around 1600 LBS. Payload rated, when you add passengers and tack it doesn't leave enough to stay legal. I have a Chev. 1/2 ton rated for 8000 LB gn but is also rated for a 9400 LB bumper pull. I would agree gn trailers are the way to go in a lot of cases, just not with a 1/2 ton.
         
        12-13-2013, 08:47 AM
      #18
    Yearling
    I'm so glad to see you have done your research and made some good decisions based upon information and knowledge of experts in the field, not just what anyone says.

    One other suggestion that many will tell you doesn't matter but does...
    If you purchase a used trailer... the tires should be "trailer tires", period.
    Some say truck tires work... IDK... there is a difference in how tires are manufactured for different vehicles and applications of use.
    Absolutely never ever use passenger car tires on your trailer.
    Sidewalls are not made to take the torque of a turning trailer nor weight ratio and they either shred or blow-out...either way destroying your trailer or causing you to have a road-side failure or accident. Neither is pleasant.


    Best of luck and enjoy the search...
         
        12-13-2013, 08:49 AM
      #19
    Yearling
    Ya, that's fine with me though, I picked this truck with a 2 horse bp slant load in mind for my next trailer :) maybe if my bf ever decides to learn to ride and we get him a horse down the road and start camping we'd look into a GN. That is a while away though! Probably won't get another horse as long as I live in the city, too expensive haha.

    There's 3 trailer places pretty near by that seem to sell some decent trailers, cox, blue ridge and travel lane.

    Doesn't some kind of trailer expo come to dc ? I swear I've heard of one just not sure what it was called!
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        12-13-2013, 10:18 AM
      #20
    Trained
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